The China Thread (Threat)

On a certain level, if that means many Ukrainians die but we see regime change in Moscow and our world knows peace for a generation or two...

As much as I am on "Team Ukraine", I don't think they have it. Unless this becomes more than a proxy war and NATO joins in. But then Russia's new friends in Beijing will get involved and we're all fucked.

The only way there's regime change inside Moscow without bombs on NATO soil, is internally. I'm not sure if the Russians are capable.
 
As much as I am on "Team Ukraine", I don't think they have it. Unless this becomes more than a proxy war and NATO joins in. But then Russia's new friends in Beijing will get involved and we're all fucked.

I think Beijing is leaning in that direction. They’ve been badmouthing NATO expansion and indicating sending lethal aid. I don’t think it’s a bluff. I think we’ll see Norinco weapons systems—including Chicom armor—showing up in Ukraine.
 
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Fuck me, this gets worse and worse.

China appears to have targeted Justin Trudeau in a foreign influence operation after he became Liberal Leader in 2013, according to a national security source who said Beijing’s plan involved donating a significant sum of money to the Pierre Elliott Trudeau Foundation. The source said the Canadian Security Intelligence Service captured a conversation in 2014 between an unnamed commercial attaché at one of China’s consulates in Canada and billionaire Zhang Bin, a political adviser to the government in Beijing and a senior official in China’s network of state promoters around the world. They discussed the federal election that was expected to take place in 2015, and the possibility that the Liberals would defeat Stephen Harper’s Conservatives and form the next government. The source said the diplomat instructed Mr. Zhang to donate $1-million to the Trudeau Foundation, and told him the Chinese government would reimburse him for the entire amount. The Globe and Mail is not identifying the source, who risks prosecution under the Security of Information Act. Mr. Zhang did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Mr. Trudeau’s Liberals swept to power in October, 2015, with a majority government. Seven months later, Mr. Zhang attended a Liberal Party fundraiser at the Toronto home of Chinese Business Chamber of Canada chair Benson Wong, where Mr. Trudeau was the guest of honour. Just weeks after the May fundraiser, the Trudeau Foundation and the University of Montreal announced that Mr. Zhang and another wealthy Chinese businessman, Niu Gensheng, would donate $1-million “to honour the memory and leadership” of Pierre Trudeau, who as prime minister opened diplomatic relations with China in 1970. Of the $1-million, $200,000 went to the Trudeau Foundation, which provides scholarships, academic fellowships and leadership programs. Another $50,000 went to pay for a statue of the elder Mr. Trudeau, and $750,000 went to the University of Montreal’s faculty of law to fund scholarships, which include grants that help Quebec students visit China. Pierre Trudeau graduated from the faculty and later taught there. The Prime Minister’s Office suggested in a statement on Monday that Justin Trudeau was unaware of Mr. Zhang’s donation. “Following his election as Leader of the Liberal Party, the Prime Minister withdrew his involvement in the affairs of the foundation for the duration of his involvement in federal politics,” press secretary Ann-Clara Vaillancourt said. Mr. Trudeau has been under growing pressure to call a public inquiry into Chinese interference operations in the 2019 and 2021 elections, after The Globe and Global News reported that China had covertly supported candidates, most of them Liberals, in both campaigns. The Prime Minister has said the outcomes of the elections were not affected. Mr. Trudeau told reporters Monday that Morris Rosenberg, a former head of the Trudeau Foundation, had been selected in summer 2022 to write an independent report that will assess the effectiveness of a government panel that monitored the 2021 election for foreign threats. The Privy Council said in a statement that the report is complete and will soon be released. The Conservative Party immediately raised concerns about Mr. Rosenberg’s involvement, which was not widely known before this week, and referenced the $200,000 donation to the foundation by Mr. Zhang. Mr. Rosenberg, a former deputy minister of foreign affairs, was chief executive of the Trudeau Foundation between 2014 and 2018. He was “involved in facilitating a controversial $200,000 donation from influential CCP official Bin Zhang, who was also intimately involved in Trudeau’s 2016 billionaire cash-for-access scandal,” the Conservatives said in a Monday news release. That scandal revolved around private fundraisers the government held with wealthy donors, who were given opportunities to meet with Mr. Trudeau and other senior ministers. “This discredits the report and proves we need a separate investigation, and the government should fully cooperate with the House committee studying this very issue,” the party said, referring to the procedure and House affairs committee. “Serious questions must be asked about this appointment, and whether the Liberals are actually taking this threat against our democracy seriously.” Mr. Trudeau said on Monday that a public inquiry is not necessary, because the matter of Chinese interference in the past two federal elections is being studied by the House committee. He added that he hopes the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians will also study foreign interference and make recommendations on “how best we can protect our democracy.” Guy Saint-Jacques, who was Canada’s ambassador to China until October, 2016, said Mr. Zhang had told him before the 2015 election that he planned to make donations in Canada in memory of the senior Mr. Trudeau. “He said young people in Canada don’t seem to know much about Norman Bethune and the great contribution he made to China, but also former prime minister Mr. Trudeau. He said we will want to erect a statue,” Mr. Saint-Jacques said. Mr. Zhang also gave $800,000 to the University of Toronto Faulty of Medicine in memory of Mr. Bethune, a Canadian doctor who worked alongside Mao Zedong’s Communist Party during its takeover of China. Mr. Saint-Jacques wondered about the source of this largesse. Chinese President Xi Jinping had poured billions of dollars into the United Front Work Department, a Chinese Communist Party organization that advances Beijing’s interests abroad, including by making political donations, co-opting politicians and offering paid trips to China. Mr. Saint-Jacques noted that Mr. Zhang was often present at events when Canadian politicians and officials visited China. “I cannot claim he is someone who is recycling money from the United Front Work Department but, if I look at what he is doing, clearly the activities that he supports favour the Chinese regime by celebrating people who are old friends of China and so on,” Mr. Saint-Jacques said. Mr. Saint-Jacques said that during this period of time Chinese officials would often tell him they wanted Mr. Trudeau to become prime minister. “The Chinese are smart, because after eight years [of Stephen Harper] there is a good chance that the government will be defeated,” he said. “When Trudeau was elected, some Chinese officials were extremely pleased. They said red is good and blue is bad.” “It was clear they were very pleased and they thought the relationship was improving – and of course they did.” He noted that the Trudeau government initially sought to negotiate a free trade deal with China.

CSIS uncovered Chinese plan to donate to Pierre Elliott Trudeau Foundation

It's even worse when you consider his father and his responsibility for establishing ties at the time with the Soviet Union, China and Cuba.

But Trudeau’s conviction was more personal. His father opened diplomatic relations with China in 1970 and then took his sons to Beijing in 1990, not long after the Tiananmen Square massacre. Trudeau junior’s professed admiration for China’s “basic dictatorship” was not just a slip of the tongue.
His affinity was also deeper — as prime minister, he raised the threshold for automatic reviews on foreign takeovers, allowing the Chinese to buy Montreal’s ITF Technologies, against the advice of the national security agency.
Even after China’s detention of Canadians Michael Spavor and Michael Kovrig, Trudeau said he hoped the relationship was “retrievable,” while a Canadian warship was still engaged in military exercises with the Chinese as late as 2018.
Until recently, the Liberal government has adopted an oddly benign stance toward Beijing, long after the true nature of the communist regime had become apparent. It now seems highly possible that there was a domestic political imperative.

John Ivison: China’s election interference could devour Trudeau and his party

And then this.

 
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I think Beijing is leaning in that direction. They’ve been badmouthing NATO expansion and indicating sending lethal aid. I don’t think it’s a bluff. I think we’ll see Norinco weapons systems—including Chicom armor—showing up in Ukraine.
I will see what country of origin. Anything I see or find is from.
After a few things this year to do. I just may be there on a "vacation".
I am 60 and retired. But, still feel the need to help. There are so many there, for whatever reason, who cannot help themselves. I am working on going over as a medic/teacher.
 
I have to research this as bit more, but interesting as FOIA releases on personal military records to a certain degree isn't illegal or prohibited.


Anna Paulina Luna says her military records likely leaked by Air Force to Dem firm as scandal grows: 'It's BS'
Only certain things can be released until long (70 years?) after separation or retirement.
This becomes a huge Privacy Act violation.
CSAF needs to go.
Current and former AFPC commanders need to go.
Civilians who released without authorization need a vacation, and Federal Court date.
 
Only certain things can be released until long (70 years?) after separation or retirement.
This becomes a huge Privacy Act violation.
CSAF needs to go.
Current and former AFPC commanders need to go.
Civilians who released without authorization need a vacation, and Federal Court date.
I agree on the accountability, I don't care about politics, Rep Luna's past or whatever- this is not ok.
 
And only a tiny mention of SOCOM misconfiguring their Azure cloud, leading to the leak of tons of privacy act data along with some wonderful things like SF 46's

The US military’s Special Operations Command says it is investigating a report from a cybersecurity researcher that the command was leaking a trove of unclassified email data on the internet.

On Monday, the command “initiated an investigation into information we were provided about a potential issue with the command’s Cloud service,” Special Operations Command (SOCOM) spokesperson Ken McGraw said in an email to CNN on Tuesday.

US military investigating leak of emails from Pentagon server | CNN Politics
 
Boy oh boy, do I have a super sweet alternate truth theory for you folks. Rabbit, you're gonna love this one.

*DISCLAIMER*, I don't think this is anything other than a hypothetical. It's something to explore, like a thought experiement, with the expressed endstate of opening up the aperture for "what's possible" in a new age of warfare. Check out books like "Stealth War" that can elucidate these types of threats way better than I can.

So, by now we have all de-frothed ourselves over the spy balloon and subsequent shootdowns of anything that resembles a balloon, to include some HAM radio aficionado's science project. We have debated why we allowed the balloon to traverse the entire nation telling ourselves "I am sure we got more intel from observation than we would have if we had just shot it down" and then trying to make that logic work in the following weeks where we just blasted everything out the sky.

So, what if...

The initial balloon wasn't collecting; it's primary purpose was transmission. To whom? A nation full of sleeper cells, primed and ready to conduct a large scale operation from inside the US. Primary targets? Water (Ohio). Air (Ohio and more than 10 huge industrial fires). Food processing plants. Power grid. Infrastructure.

We figured those facts out, but too late. When we did, we stopped asking questions and just started lobbing AIMs from fighters in response.

There are a million reasons I could come up with to say why this couldn't possibly be true, I get it. But, uh... I mean, if I was conducting UW on a rival global super power on a now EXTREMELY truncated timeline (because of my impending population collapse that is soon to steal my largest advantage, which is standing army), and I was wargaming- this would be a pretty slick non-kinetic attack that would destabalize a country.

Anyway, back to our regularly scheduled programming.
 
The initial balloon wasn't collecting; it's primary purpose was transmission. To whom? A nation full of sleeper cells, primed and ready to conduct a large scale operation from inside the US. Primary targets? Water (Ohio). Air (Ohio and more than 10 huge industrial fires). Food processing plants. Power grid. Infrastructure.
Hoppity Hop down the rabbit hole. Hello Alice! Me, I be the Chesire cat.

Add 'to what' as transmission from balloon to surface could be for inserting code into firmware and software used by current hi-tech armaments and weaponry. Ie., launch the nukes and we end up nuking ourselves. All kinds of mischief can be pursued against firmware-based tech that doesn't get connected to the internet but does have some sort of wireless tech for updating firmware.

Example: Over-The-Air (OTA) Automotive Software and Firmware Updates <--Once the vehicle is out in the real world, software and firmware updates may become difficult to implement. In a vehicle, the firmware or software piece can be updated wirelessly using a cellular network, through a gateway (OTA Manager) inside the car, and passed onto the respective ECUs, which is present in all modern vehicles.

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