policemedic
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The "CrossFit Culture" is a bunch of DORKS!!!
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ThunderHorse
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What's the NSCA's official position on cross fit?
Well put my friend. I see what you mean.
Not to get too off topic, but I definitely see where the pipelines and jobs are headed (S/C coaches and physiologists at the units, THOR3, etc.) and I wonder if we are getting "it" fast enough. A lot of my time was spent doing some "not so beneficial" exercise, long into the night, as I am sure you also have.
We like every other Unit are going that way as well. I have been deeply involved in our program and I'm glad this is the way ahead. Too many guys get sidelined from their careers because of shoddy and lackadaisical medical care. But we do it to ourselves because we're too hard headed to adjust our training. Once your in, you need to start training to perform on the job, and in that we need to prepare train and recover like professionals.
Unfortunately I had plenty of time to research this (9 days in the hospital...), and as much as I find Crossfit to be a great form of training for a certain group of people, I was quite unhappy with how Crossfit somewhat pokes fun at Rhabdo and other potential injuries that can occur. This is the side of Crossfit that, in my opinion, needs to change. There needs to be a lot more education for the coaches and their customers/athletes.
My bout with Rhabdo was somewhat self-inflicted. I was a little dehydtrated, which is rare for me. I also tackled a heavy workout a lot harder than I should have considering I was just starting up with crossfit after 5 months of basic training and airborne school. I hadn't done kipping pullups in that stretch and now I was taking on 100 of them. I could have slowed them down and done them in smaller sets, but I didn't. The coaches at my gym were pushing me to do it faster. We all forgot that I hadn't done workouts like this in 5 months.
Crossfit was an excellent program for myself prior to shipping to Basic. I had never done olympic lifts, and my gym spent a lot of time on learning proper form. All of my main lifts saw tremendous improvement over the course of 5 months. My cardio endurance also improved. So for me it was great. With that said, I have seen too many people start Crossfit being completely out of shape and I'm shocked that there are not more injuries (especially Rhabdo) due to Level 1 coaches not building them up slowly to prevent injuries and so people can learn how their body reacts to heavy workouts. I also have to admit, like in my case, a lot of the people that enjoy Crossfit tend to be the type of person that has that need to push themselves as hard as they can. I'm sure a good chunk of the members here probably fit that mold. So when you match up personalities like that along with a workout program that pushes you to the brink, it is easy to see why injuries are popping up.
Now if you want to talk about the culture, I have to agree that there are a lot of annoying people. You have to love the people that spend $500 on a shirt, shorts, compression sleeves, designer headband, and of course 3 different pairs of shoes for a single workout. This is the part of Crossfit that just kills me...
ThunderHorse
Verified Military
I mean I did buy Merrell Road gloves specifically to be gym shoes...but that was more because I haven't seen anyone lift barefoot and I wanted to lift close to that.
People spend money on their hobbies. If their hobby is Crossfit, then they will likely use expendable income on it. It's not really unlike any other sport where people spend money on sport-specific gear. I guess if you don't like your hands getting ripped up, you buy gloves, and if you don't like your shins getting ripped up, you buy shin guards, etc. Look at how much money people spend on cleats, mouth guards, and underarmour in football (just as an example). Now, that being said, I haven't purchased any of the typical crossfit stuff, I just work out in running shorts and t-shirts that I have had forever. I do however have a pair of Vibram Five Fingers, but I have been using them since before I started doing Crossfit.
The headbands, knee-highs, etc..... yeah not really my style, but if other people like it, i'm not one to judge.
The headbands, knee-highs, etc..... yeah not really my style, but if other people like it, i'm not one to judge.
I was mainly getting at the point of the cost of anything branded for crossfit. You could have two identical shirts, but if one had the word crossfit on it, bam... twice the price. As far as spending money on hobbies, I'm just as guilty as the next guy. Now the compression sleeves for arms and legs I just don't get (why not wear long sleeve shirt or compression pants?).
Thunderhorse, I also use the Merrell Barefoots for the gym. I would prefer to workout without shoes, but that isn't practical. My wife and I both have issues with squats in any shoes that have heel lift. I would do the 5 fingers, but the toes just always freaked me out. There's a former marine at my gym that loves them for crossfit.
Thunderhorse, I also use the Merrell Barefoots for the gym. I would prefer to workout without shoes, but that isn't practical. My wife and I both have issues with squats in any shoes that have heel lift. I would do the 5 fingers, but the toes just always freaked me out. There's a former marine at my gym that loves them for crossfit.
ThunderHorse
Verified Military
I couldn't do the toes in the vibram, fila's or adidas...I really wanted to get some for swimming in the rivers and lakes around here...but oh well, have the road gloves so triple knot.
I played basketball for 30 minutes straight in them...never again, that's all I have to say, surprisingly it wasn't horrible but it was tough.
I played basketball for 30 minutes straight in them...never again, that's all I have to say, surprisingly it wasn't horrible but it was tough.
I've tried 5 fingers for many different things. I don't recommend them for serious lifting. Running in them requires all sorts of skill development as well. Short stuff on lawns and parks is a great way to mimic barefoot running with them. Use in the woods or river sounds great for that reason as well.
I use Merrells for running and sprinting, and most workouts. I also have about 1,000 pairs of Chuck Taylor's for just about everything as well.
I've done some heavy barbell stuff in my ASOLO's and they work very well for Dead-lifts as well as squats.
I am terribly lazy and have yet to purchase lifting shoes, I will someday.
If you get into training you start to realize all of the little nit-noid things that cut down on your performance so you compensate by purchasing useful things. I always tape my wrists when i use kettlebells because it keeps my hands dry and thus I save a lot of blistering. I need to buy some wrist wraps as well. I got a bunch of knee high under Armor Socks that are sort of compression type. They are awesome. I highly recommend looking into some of these products. I notice a difference when I'm not wearing them. I used to be one of the ankle sock crowd. The only problem is knee high socks with black silky's is not so cool for dudes.
I use Merrells for running and sprinting, and most workouts. I also have about 1,000 pairs of Chuck Taylor's for just about everything as well.
I've done some heavy barbell stuff in my ASOLO's and they work very well for Dead-lifts as well as squats.
I am terribly lazy and have yet to purchase lifting shoes, I will someday.
If you get into training you start to realize all of the little nit-noid things that cut down on your performance so you compensate by purchasing useful things. I always tape my wrists when i use kettlebells because it keeps my hands dry and thus I save a lot of blistering. I need to buy some wrist wraps as well. I got a bunch of knee high under Armor Socks that are sort of compression type. They are awesome. I highly recommend looking into some of these products. I notice a difference when I'm not wearing them. I used to be one of the ankle sock crowd. The only problem is knee high socks with black silky's is not so cool for dudes.
Alright already fucking ready I get it.....
ThunderHorse
Verified Military
I'd be down for compression sleeves for running...but AR 670-1 is the bane of the Soldier's existence an the simple fact that the Army's current PTs would have been fine in the 80s.
I couldn't resist....
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Why would you buy shoes that are designed for running on roads as gym shoes? Why in the world would you want to lift close to being barefoot?
This has what to do with Xfit? You played basketball in minimal running shoes. You deserve whatever negative effects came as a result.
This has what to do with Xfit?
Are you going to contribute anything of worth to this discussion, Sir, or are you just going to continue going off on tangents about barefoot lifting road gym shoes and swimming in rivers and lakes with triple knots?
Jeez I'm really sorry I wasted your time. Next meandering thread will be: Does wearing a Tap-out T-Shirt everyday after duty make you a MMA bad-ass? Does an Afflicted T-shirt mean that your are afflicted with awesomeness?
What. Is. Happening????
Back on topic. With the xfit games going on, how does the programming "feel" this year. Any inputs on the Sam Briggs fiasco or Annie Thors Daughter dropping out?
Back on topic. With the xfit games going on, how does the programming "feel" this year. Any inputs on the Sam Briggs fiasco or Annie Thors Daughter dropping out?
I used to work out barefoot. Or with 5 fingers. I ended up going to chuck taylors or my new balance minimuses. Anyway this shit ain't rocket science, the most important piece of gear guys need to worry about getting is some f*ckin heart.
ThunderHorse
Verified Military
Annie dropping out sucks because she's great for the sport with her shirt on (extremely beautiful lady, but the abs make me run for the hills as she's got 8 more than I, whoops). She's got a great personality as well. In Men's health it was interesting because a writer interviewed Froning, they worked out and Froning was talking about the collectivism and the focus on form...said nothing about the pace in which XFit seems to be geared. Even said you could go at your own pace...which is really against the principles of what I've seen from XFit. For Froning though his background wasn't just XFit as a I recall.
Most CF coaches preach that intensity comes AFTER form. If you can't do the movement correctly, you shouldn't be doing it quickly. Also, it depends on the WOD, some are supposed to be fast, some are not.
I think the programming for the Open has been "ok" so far. I was not a fan of the first one, as the Open is supposed to be accessible to 95% of the athletes who participate, but they went up in weight to fast for the snatches on the first one. The first round was a 75 lb snatch, which that is fine, but the second round they jumped to 135, and then went even further up in subsequent rounds. I just didn't think it was a good one for the Open. Other than that, I think they have been decent for the competition setting. You are kind of limited in the Open with what you can do, the creativity doesn't really come into play until regionals or especially the Games.
I think the programming for the Open has been "ok" so far. I was not a fan of the first one, as the Open is supposed to be accessible to 95% of the athletes who participate, but they went up in weight to fast for the snatches on the first one. The first round was a 75 lb snatch, which that is fine, but the second round they jumped to 135, and then went even further up in subsequent rounds. I just didn't think it was a good one for the Open. Other than that, I think they have been decent for the competition setting. You are kind of limited in the Open with what you can do, the creativity doesn't really come into play until regionals or especially the Games.
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