The Trump Presidency 2.0
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No and I'd not even try to make a case against that. I'm fully on board with Trump on immigration. I don't want bad hombres of any nationality.
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BREAKING:
Canada is changing the name of Niagara Falls to Canada Falls!
That's Ok - we've got PLENTY of name changes coming...
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Sounds like bullshit. Oh... it is. All based on the testimony of one, "anonymous [sic] employee". It's not like HuffPost or US intelligence has lied to us over political matters...
. (sarcasm)Hope T$ declassifies the shit outta some untouchable's hidden little enclaves.
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You don't have to take their word for it, and if you won't be bothered to go and see for yourself, then this discussion is over.
Caveat for clearance holders: For obvious reasons I don't recommend following our community Rabbit down That Hole, but the fact that this is now something you'd all actually need to be concerned about running into on an official public-facing .gov page should be problem enough.
Also in today's latest WTF news:
US nuclear weapons agency hit by layoffs after DOGE exemption denied
I'd bet a lot of the positions that get cut are along the 0301 and 0343 job series. The article above seems kind of over the top. STEM and clerical/admin don't typically go together.
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Courier positions cut, nope…
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Yooo
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Not sure what you're implying, but Iemme break some things down Barney Style.
The screeching about the hacked website, is overblown. DOGE isn't using a website as a repository for sensitive information. It's basically an image board. Secondly, we've had like... three(?), OPM hacks that have exposed the information of every government worker; to include the military and paper pushing dorks. So... this website thing is overblown.
Oh! Did some digging on the author of the article you posted. Looks like the dude is a liberal activist being paid to write a shitload of anti-Trump pieces. Don't believe me, take a gander down below.
https://muckrack.com/hafiz-rashid/articles
Note that Rashid's "article" is an opinion piece as well. The source he quotes Malcolm Ferguson, is also suspect.
https://muckrack.com/malcolm-ferguson/articles
The two stooges. Take a look at their pedigrees. Not exactly bastions of honesty.
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I just wanted to add that I find your quote both hilarious and kinda sad. I'm a semi-retarded window licker. Anything and everything I post is open source. Making me out to be a threat towards informational analysis and security is kinda pathetic.
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If you want to break things down Barney-style, then maybe don't start by introducing a second topic that wasn't being addressed in the first place.
Firstly, they shared classified intelligence information with the world, and that is a fact.
Secondly, why are you introducing the idea that I or anyone discussing this here claimed DOGE was using a website as a "repository" for sensitive information beyond its release of a classified information about an intelligence agency?
Why are you conflating a hack by an outside actor with the sharing of classified information on an entire intelligence agency by an appointed government official onto his agency's publicly accessible official government website?
How would who the author is change the fact that what they reported about DOGE sharing classified information to the world about an US intelligence agency was true?
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You shouldn't.
I hear that and think most of us fall in that category here by default, if only for the very helpful SS requirement that we cite open source material when making claims.
I think you misread my meaning, and I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt because, based on recent related convos we've had, I don't think you were necessarily aware that folks holding a clearance are considered to be improperly accessing or misusing classified information if they encounter it through unclassified channels, or in this case via a public website, and could lose their clearance eligibility as a result.
So no, that wasn't at all meant as a knock on you. I actually enjoy your thoroughness and level of detail you provide in many discussions you have here. I only added the caveat to discourage current clearance holders from following suit in you possibly following my suggestion to see the facts for yourself on their website.
My bad if I didn't make that clear.
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I'm with you there at first look, but also take into account that 300ish of their 1800 employees were targeted before they stopped the process and began trying to recall the workers.
Assuming that didn't also include supervisors for contractors who build weapons, weapons inspectors and those who regulate weapons contractors, as multiple other sources told CNN and Bloomberg News, targeting administrative and clerical roles in an agency of that national security significance with that small of a workforce seems like the worst way to showcase a reduction of government "inefficiency" when those positions provide the support and logistics needed to allow the nuke specialists to focus on their tasks and successfully execute their national security mission.
I also don't think many of us would be fine with throwing cuts to these administrative backbone positions for most other national security-focused agencies either.
If I had to guess what employees were like at the Pentagon, I would bet many of them are absolutely incompetent, lazy, and the exact opposite of what this administration is looking for. So, yes, I would be fine with it as long as they are replaced with rockstars.
I'm not sure what classified materials you're speaking of being realesed through DOGE.
However, it would be completely unheard of, if say a ton of sensitive DOD and DOS cables were leaked to the press, then clearance holders accessed those materials through public websites, and were then held accountable... Its not like that doesnt happen semi-frequently.
Rooting for DOGE to fail is like rooting for Saddam Hussein to rise from the dead. We don't need this shit. We do need that money.
The way the RIF's and RTO were/ are handled, government will be lucky to recruit rockstars. It will have to grow its own from recent college grads which will take time.
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What should bother us about DOGE being hacked/ defaced is that Elon went out and hired these genius children to find gov't waste, but couldn't be assed to find one capable of building a website? I don't care if it hosts sensitive data or not, it is hastily thrown together on Cloudflare. Was GoDaddy not available that day? DOGE.gov looks like it was a 3000 level computer science project.
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