The Trump Presidency 2.0
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Vegas odds that they won't let the world's (including bad actors') awareness of how they use Signal stop them from continuing to use it and other unauthorized virtual channels to discuss classified active military ops and other activities/information that have no business leaving a SCIF?
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It was the National Security Advisor who built it.
The SECDEF just "allegedly" posted classified information in the chat.
EDIT: I thought this comment was related to his interview, not his texts lol.
Man, if only he had read the article in which the NSC softly confirmed it to be really chats, or at least talked to somebody. There's two options; he's bold faced lying because he doesn't know how to spin it yet, or he doesn't understand OPSEC/PERSEC/INFOSEC
Maybe Pete should redo his cyber awareness.
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We aren't allowed to have CUI calls unless they are through Teams, meanwhile some people are blatantly posting classified information on commercial messaging apps.
"Y'all got anymore of them bleachware email or Discord servers?"
"Y'all got anymore of them bleachware email or Discord servers?"
What they did is illegal. Period. Hillary did it, Biden did it, dozens on both sides of the aisles have done it.
Nothing will come of this, but to dismiss it or make light of it is a bit hypocritical. They broke the law.
Do you think it's actually misinformation, or are you saying the White House should just message as if it was?
No, I get it. I just wanna be the hypocrisy mirror for this little outrage carousel. Yep, Hillary- illegal. This text chain (once we verify)- illegal. I already said Iâm outraged already clutched the pearls and said they should be fired, I donât care who gets it. While we are at it, ring the reporter up for sedition for sharing national secrets. What happened to Hillary? Nothing. What will happen to the reporter? Nothing. Thatâs the precedent. Game is what the game is at this point.
Iâm saying the White House should follow the lead of the last admin. The texts seem to be authentic, reporting leads me to believe they are- but as weâve seen these last 4 years, whatâs true doesnât actually matter. The framing does.
BL- meh. Moving on. Nothing will happen even if it should, miss me with the outrage.
I'm assuming for a moment that the initial reporting is 100% accurate--which it almost never is.
How do people in the national security apparatus communicate digitally? I assume the SECDEF and many others have classified phones or whatever. Is it possible that the SECDEF thought he was communicating on the red phone, but put it out on the green phone? I don't know... trying to come up with ways that this isn't a gigantic self-own. We're the US, and we can't do better than the same public app that I use to communicate with members of my shooting club? Pretty pathetic.
I hope there's more to this story that the colossal f-up it appears to be.
How do people in the national security apparatus communicate digitally? I assume the SECDEF and many others have classified phones or whatever. Is it possible that the SECDEF thought he was communicating on the red phone, but put it out on the green phone? I don't know... trying to come up with ways that this isn't a gigantic self-own. We're the US, and we can't do better than the same public app that I use to communicate with members of my shooting club? Pretty pathetic.
I hope there's more to this story that the colossal f-up it appears to be.
Itâs no fun unless everyone plays the game. Cmon, itâll be fun.
People will pretend to care about âmuh standards and norms and âtegrityâ and then Iâll remind them the entire elected body theyâve supported are the ones that lowered the bar, then we will have some pithy sideline fence sitters come in to say ânu uhâ, but they donât wanna help they just wanna dunk on ânot their sideâ- itâs our favorite game!
Mannnnnn I didnât even want to get into this.
Letâs say youâre deployed to Africa. Letâs say youâre doing FID and some other things, and the only way you contact your partner forces through WhatsApp. They donât have or use anything else and they also donât know what the crap OPSEC is. So you end up on about 200 WhatsApp chains on your personal phone (because the command in its infinite wisdom didnât get burners for you), and a lot of the information on there is at least sensitive.
Oh I forgot to mention that for all your âencryptionâ and double speak and tradecraft none of that matters because the entire architecture youâre talking on is Chinese owned and operated because they own the cell service in Africa.
Now pretend all the teams do that in every country in Africa in every command to this day. Every flight schedule every show time every team engagement.
And it all flows through a single point- China- and out into the world.
Anyway hereâs wonderwall.
I agree framing matters, I disagree they should follow the last administration's playback.
Seems like this is a good chance for Trump to demonstrate he is serious and holds his staff accountable, unlike the last adadministration.
Never been cool enough to have a red phone, so maybe I'm wrong; wouldn't Signal still be improper for that case? There's nothing that would prevent me from having my Signal account on a red phone also installed on a civilian desktop.
From a political strategy optic- lol nah. Hilarious to even think about. âLiteral Hitler showed leadership; World Healsâ read the Times.
Conversations like this remind me of Hiroo Onoda. Just fighting for a set of ideals, alone, while the rest of the world moved on, and the ideals youâre fighting for long gone. It feels righteous to some, Iâm sire1 but youâre just a dude alone in the woods, winning a game no one else is bothering to play.
He should issue one statement, less than 240 characters.
âMistakes happen theyâve been counseled moving on.â
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Less can't, more won't, I say.
I also doubt their using it to communicate wouldn't have been as big an issue if they also weren't using it to exchange classified information about an imminent counterterrorism op or, say, the identity of one of their own spies.
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