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The Trump Presidency
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"....Ivanka Trump quickly gave in to Kelly’s new system, two officials said."
Not only a pretty face...smart too
Not only a pretty face...smart too
It is just plain discouraging that an article even needed to be written about simple professional organization in the White House.
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Trump signs directive banning trans troops
Trump's ban on transgender troops will soon be policy. Here's what happens next.
This is the only source I can find now.
Trump's ban on transgender troops will soon be policy. Here's what happens next.
This is the only source I can find now.
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He also pardoned Joe.
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Controversial former sheriff Joe Arpaio. To be honest, I didn't see this one coming. President Trump Pardons Former Sheriff Joe Arpaio
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Wow, that Joe?
"Everything" I had read said Trump was not going to pardon him.
Huh.
Everything I read prior to the election said that Candidate Trump wasn't going to win. ;)
Gorka is out, apparently.
Got to be getting close to something like 100% turnover in the administration.
Got to be getting close to something like 100% turnover in the administration.
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He is just emptying the swamp of people he brought in to empty it back out...
Elect a clown expect a circus folks. That is what our President is, a clown. Not too long ago there were posts on here and in other places about "bread and circuses.". All we have now is the circus. Unless of course the bread is our constant need to be offended, and transgressed against...
Elect a clown expect a circus folks. That is what our President is, a clown. Not too long ago there were posts on here and in other places about "bread and circuses.". All we have now is the circus. Unless of course the bread is our constant need to be offended, and transgressed against...
I believe the President hinted very strongly at a pardon at his Phoenix rally. Granted, if you start believing what the President says you're a safe bet to be disappointed but I think he telegraphed this one fairly substantially.
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It's quite clear that John Kelly is getting it done. It's sad that we needed to bring in a 4 Star General to put together a good staff. But this is the kind of shit you get to deal with when you hand out positions via patronage and not merit. Oh and don't worry, I'm quite sure Obama had to deal with the same shit in his first 6 months, Bush before him, Clinton before him. Pretty much every president.He is just emptying the swamp of people he brought in to empty it back out...
Elect a clown expect a circus folks. That is what our President is, a clown. Not too long ago there were posts on here and in other places about "bread and circuses.". All we have now is the circus. Unless of course the bread is our constant need to be offended, and transgressed against...
Yeah, the Arpaio pardon was telegraphed pretty heavily. Sheriff Joe was one of candidate Trump's first endorsements, and with the value he places on "loyalty" it was pretty much inevitable.
As an aside, I'm super glad that Gorka is out. Now all that's left is Steven Miller and Jared Kushner. Maybe this administration will begin to look like a real presidency instead of a collection of Breitbart circus freaks.
As an aside, I'm super glad that Gorka is out. Now all that's left is Steven Miller and Jared Kushner. Maybe this administration will begin to look like a real presidency instead of a collection of Breitbart circus freaks.
Like, in isolated incidents (as in, other presidents have replaced people soon after election) or are you saying those presidents turned over staff like Pres Trump has? Because I don't believe I remember that happening nearly at all- let alone what has to be double digit firings at this point.
Found an article outlining those that were fired, quit, replaced.
It's a lot, and I don't think it's on par with other recent presidents.
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A couple things, I'm sure it's usually a grip. But like this? The amount of Microscopes on this administration Vs. others is immense. Partially because of outrage and mostly because of our current times. The amount is only magnified by the microscope. However, I think the true difference is the positions these people were in versus the actual quantity of personnel.
I don't agree with that at all. The initial statement, "I think this happens with every administration", I think is incorrect. I think the amount of firings, replacements and resignations is way higher than anything we have seen.
The "sign of the times" argument doesn't really work. Pres Trump's entire campaign revolved around being a political outsider, someone who was going to put the right people in the right places, political norms be damned. He did that and (it appears) failed miserably. Unless you want to admit that Pres Trump is EXTREMELY concerned with American opinon of him and not so alpha male as everyone insists. Slightest bit of pushback and he hits the eject button.
To the bolded; do you mean the quality of personnel was good, but the positions they were put in were wrong? I am willing to agree only because that means we get to agree Pres Trump has no idea what he's doing and lost great people because of his shitty management.
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Verbiage was wrong. I would say type of position. I think that in any organization that gets staffed through patronage you will have significant turnover, when those people fail they get fire. Donnie Ts problem was that he gave positions to complete baffoons whom had no business being there and now he's taken a play out of Jed Bartlett's administration and installed a cabinet secretary as CoS.
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