United States & Gun Control discussion.
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policemedic
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I Tweeted something similar in response. Pissing in the wind, I know.
Devildoc
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Denny Crane...one of my favorite TV characters....
@Ooh-Rah , that article may have been old, but it has a revealing quote by Mark Herring, VA's AG, talking about concealed firearms licenses issued by other states...his reason to revoke reciprocity:
"Those states hand out permits to people who are barred under the Virginia law, like fugitives, convicted stalkers and drug dealers, which undermines the state's law and puts residents at risk," he said.
An outrageous lie, of course, but it shows to what depths the VA administration will go to confuse the issue and undermine the law.
"Those states hand out permits to people who are barred under the Virginia law, like fugitives, convicted stalkers and drug dealers, which undermines the state's law and puts residents at risk," he said.
An outrageous lie, of course, but it shows to what depths the VA administration will go to confuse the issue and undermine the law.
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Brill
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VA has put itself into a precarious position. Will be interesting to see how this plays out.
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This is always the best.
You are comparing 18th century weapons [muskets] to current day while you use a cell phone and Twitter [quill pen and ink] to type a silly message.
More data to tell me I'm on the right side of this....
Yep. I usually bring up the 1st and 4th amendment and cell phones, internet access, etc.
ThunderHorse
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So, this gets interesting according to "Commonwealth of Virginia Emergency Services and Disaster Law of 2000."
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Thats a good one - that Construction of chapter law could have been copied out of a Beetle Baily comic; with politicians in general - the law doesn't seem to matter if it advances their particular partisan flavor.
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Thats a good one - that Construction of chapter law could have been copied out of a Beetle Baily comic; with politicians in general - the law doesn't seem to matter if it advances their particular partisan flavor.
edited to remove specific reference to a single party - politicians in general - left right or center
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This is in no way directed solely at Box, but if we are going to have these political threads, there has to be some attempt at accuracy when making blanket statements.
If guys are going to offer an opinion, then feel free. But broad statements in these threads that cannot be linked as fact, will be called out as such. This is no different than how we run any other thread on this site, prove what you are saying, or state it as an opinion, and then explain why you believe your opinion to be valid.
Otherwise don’t participate in these threads.
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In the spirit of fairness, that is not exactly an accurate statement. To imply that anyone on the left does not believe or follow the rule of law, is then suggesting that anyone on the right, does.
If guys are going to offer an opinion, then feel free. But broad statements in these threads that cannot be linked as fact, will be called out as such. This is no different than how we run any other thread on this site, prove what you are saying, or state it as an opinion, and then explain why you believe your opinion to be valid.
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Have fun with the next hit from Virginia... I present to you House Bill 567. currently in committee
Virginia HB567 | 2020 | Regular Session
(BTW, This will never make it past a legal challenge if it does become law)
Virginia HB567 | 2020 | Regular Session
(BTW, This will never make it past a legal challenge if it does become law)
Brill
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It's like suddenly the Democrats like walls.
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Probably hits the NRA HQ's inside range pretty hard. Not that it's any good, but still.
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Kraut783
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"Indoor shooting ranges; prohibited in buildings not owned or leased by the Commonwealth."
That is the stupidest law proposal I have read in awhile.......are outdoor ranges okay still?
That is the stupidest law proposal I have read in awhile.......are outdoor ranges okay still?
Actually, so are indoor ranges. The only range that fits the 50+ employee requirement in the entire state is the NRA headquarters. That's why I said it wouldn't pass legal muster. The Constitution explicitly prohibits laws targeting a single business, person or group.
U.S. Constitution - Article 1 Section 10 - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net
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Just a hunch, but something tells me most of the people trying to pass these laws don't care much about what the Constitution says.
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This is setting up to be a massive shit-show, or the a devastating avalanche.
Given the history of "rallies" we've had in recent history, I'm leaning more towards a shit-show of dudes in full airsoft "gear" pointing fingers at LEO's calling them Redcoats. However, (OPINION) I think the time of diplomacy and civil "discussions" has passed. I'm not advocating for violence by any means and it would be way better in the long run not only for us as American people, but gun owners as well, to avoid it. Despite that, we have to stop being the civil ones who keep saying "okay you can't have A but we'll give you B. Aw man you took A and B? Okay well don't take C as well. Aw shoot you took C." etc. The gun control advocates are walking all over gun owners and gun owner advocates because we keep allowing them and keep blaming it on "voters". We need to take the button-ups off and put on our big boy shoes and tell them to put a sock in it. Just my (and not very valuable) $0.02.
Given the history of "rallies" we've had in recent history, I'm leaning more towards a shit-show of dudes in full airsoft "gear" pointing fingers at LEO's calling them Redcoats. However, (OPINION) I think the time of diplomacy and civil "discussions" has passed. I'm not advocating for violence by any means and it would be way better in the long run not only for us as American people, but gun owners as well, to avoid it. Despite that, we have to stop being the civil ones who keep saying "okay you can't have A but we'll give you B. Aw man you took A and B? Okay well don't take C as well. Aw shoot you took C." etc. The gun control advocates are walking all over gun owners and gun owner advocates because we keep allowing them and keep blaming it on "voters". We need to take the button-ups off and put on our big boy shoes and tell them to put a sock in it. Just my (and not very valuable) $0.02.
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