United States & Gun Control discussion.

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What is the history of the AR 15?
Did the AR 15 come first or did the M16? I think the AR came first.

The chicken came first, everyone knows that..

 

[Marine0311]

Alright you jokers I wanted to know if anyone has a clear version of that history so I can use it to argue back.

 

[Kraut783]

Here is a good article from 2016.

Gunmakers Have Sold AR-15s to Civilians for More Than 50 Years

 

[Marauder06]

Interesting that the article referred to the weapon's caliber as .22.

 

[CDG]

.223 and .22 are the same thing. Duh. Just like all 7.62 rounds are the same. Whatever comes after the "x" is meaningless.

 

[Devildoc]

Has anyone seen this group, "Hunters Against the NRA"? https://www.facebook.com/HuntersAgainstNRA/

These cats are koo koo for cocoa puffs....they have a video detailing a plan for "census workers" "scouring" homes looking for and counting guns, plan to have it implemented in two years, then says their "lawyer" says you cannot share the video with any pro-gun or pro-NRA site or people.

My legal disclaimer: I am not sharing the video. I am advertising their site.

 

[Marauder06]

That's got to be a troll site.

I hope.

 

[Gunz]

I know a few gun owners who aren't crazy about the NRA, but none of them would ever side with the gun-ban crowd.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

That's got to be a troll site.

I hope.

I agree....and it's actually pretty good if you look at it from that point-of-view.

 

[Topkick]

There is significant group of people who believe guns are for hunting and sport only, and this crowd will side with left on "assault rifles" and other semi- autos. They seperate themselves from the tactical, self-defense, prepper crowd.

 

[AWP]

I have to wonder how many would join the NRA just to say they are NRA members for gun control.

 

[Devildoc]

There is significant group of people who believe guns are for hunting and sport only, and this crowd will side with left on "assault rifles" and other semi- autos. They seperate themselves from the tactical, self-defense, prepper crowd.

And that whole thought process is utterly nonsensical to me.

An analogy to me is the 13th amendment, regarding slavery. It's like saying it only applies to black people; people of other skin color can be enslaved.

 

[Topkick]

And that whole thought process is utterly nonsensical to me.

An analogy to me is the 13th amendment, regarding slavery. It's like saying it only applies to black people; people of other skin color can be enslaved.

They are the Fudd's
The Fudd: why they are toxic to gun owning communities - Paratus

 

[Gunz]

There is significant group of people who believe guns are for hunting and sport only, and this crowd will side with left on "assault rifles" and other semi- autos. They seperate themselves from the tactical, self-defense, prepper crowd.

Ran into a few, mostly upper-crust sporting clay crowd, non-mil rich cats with fancy Benelli shotguns.

 

[Devildoc]

They are the Fudd's
The Fudd: why they are toxic to gun owning communities - Paratus

Oh, yeah, I know who they are. I work with a couple docs who own $4,000 shottys for pheasant and ducks and want to ban just about everything else. They hate arguing with me on this topic because I am always right. Logic and facts confuse them and they just shut down and mutter "...but the children" or some stupid shit.

 

[ThunderHorse]

Has anyone seen this group, "Hunters Against the NRA"? https://www.facebook.com/HuntersAgainstNRA/

These cats are koo koo for cocoa puffs....they have a video detailing a plan for "census workers" "scouring" homes looking for and counting guns, plan to have it implemented in two years, then says their "lawyer" says you cannot share the video with any pro-gun or pro-NRA site or people.

My legal disclaimer: I am not sharing the video. I am advertising their site.

It's being shared all over the place.

 

[Ooh-Rah]

Good ol' California -

July 1 Deadline for Cali Gun Owners - Creating Criminals - Uncle Sam's Misguided Children

 

[Marauder06]

I don't understand this part:

California law states that every weapon must have a unique serial number. So as of July 1, if a person is making their weapon out of parts rather than purchasing a new gun, they must apply to the California Justice Department for a “serial number or other mark.”

Unless I'm milling out my own 80% lower, wouldn't this be completely meaningless? I'm OK with requiring everyone's gun to have a serial # on it. Even if I'm putting a gun together out of parts, the receiver will have a serial # on it already in most cases.

 

[R.Caerbannog]

Good ol' California -

July 1 Deadline for Cali Gun Owners - Creating Criminals - Uncle Sam's Misguided Children

Commiefornia strike again! Fuck em, in for a penny in for a pound. It's already a 3rd world shithole, why not add to the ambiance Saddam style?

 

[policemedic]

I don't understand this part:

California law states that every weapon must have a unique serial number. So as of July 1, if a person is making their weapon out of parts rather than purchasing a new gun, they must apply to the California Justice Department for a “serial number or other mark.”

Unless I'm milling out my own 80% lower, wouldn't this be completely meaningless? I'm OK with requiring everyone's gun to have a serial # on it. Even if I'm putting a gun together out of parts, the receiver will have a serial # on it already in most cases.

Yeah, I'm with you. I'm going to have to pull the law up and read the details. Some manufacturers do place matching serial numbers on frames, barrels, and slides, but most don't. Legally, the gun is the frame or lower (with the SIG P320 being a notable exception). The only impact I can see is that people will be required to obtain a serial number from the CA DOJ for their 80% builds, which kind of negates their perceived benefit.