Which is probably the only motivating factor behind the law. You apply for a SN, the state "forgets" to delete the records, and now they know who has what type of weapon.
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Which is probably the only motivating factor behind the law. You apply for a SN, the state "forgets" to delete the records, and now they know who has what type of weapon.
policemedic
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I live in Hawaii now. In order to stay legal, when my guns get here I have to skip work and physically take them to the Honolulu PD to register them.
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policemedic
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I was thinking of taking a holiday there pre-volcanic death and molten destruction. It seems the Hawaiian government wants you to register any guns that will be in the state for more than 5 days. Fuck that.
I value both of your opinions but I can't see this or any other measure that can be interpreted as a precursor to confiscation as anything but a muse to support a political theme. Honestly, the closest we will get to confiscation will be through legislation. At this rate, it will be such a pain in the ass to own a firearm - many if not all will outright abandon the privilege to do so.
Fair enough, but if there's no end state then why require registration? What benefit to society does it provide?
It provides no benefit to anyone but the legislator who made it happen. It becomes a track record...
"I made the streets safer through enacted firearms registrations (blah blah blah) now vote for me for another 30+ years."
"I made the streets safer through enacted firearms registrations (blah blah blah) now vote for me for another 30+ years."
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I’m sure you have already considered this, but just in case.
Have you double checked to ensure that everything you own can be posessed in Hawaii? Would hate to see your police station visit hang an unexpected LEFT turn.
Counterfeit guns are being fabricated out of raw metal and assembled in small, clandestine metal working shops in the Philippines, then smuggled into California. These are replicas of commercially made 9mm and 45cal weapons but have no serial numbers. They are in high demand because they are untraceable. What relevance this may have to the CA law, I don't know...but there must be thousands of them on the black market.
I don't recall the episode number off the top of my head, but Vice did an episode on that exact topic. It was fascinating.
"Family man who kills home invaders with unregistered Glock 19 is charged, tried before the court, and convicted to a bajillion years in prison"
- Said no news source, ever.
- Said no news source, ever.
policemedic
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I'm sure the gangbangers and other crims in CA have complied with the registration/serializing law now that it's a legal requirement...
Thousands of firearms, with serial numbers, manufactured legally, on the black market.
ThunderHorse
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Bear with me here. In Oz, a guy in Sydney managed to get a pistol license despite warnings from police and gun clubs that he was never to get access, but was eventually issued a permit to acquire. He killed his two estranged teen children with legally acquired pistols. The Firearms Registry IMO fucked up. (No matter, another arguement). What has eventuated in the past two weeks is that the clubs are talking to each other. I'm relatively new to the competitive shooting scene, about five years, but in that time this has not occurred. In the past week I've received emails to beware of certain people who are looking to acquire training or to acquire. This is such a positive move and the beauty is there's no legislation behind it, the clubs have picked up the ball. In the US context, the only example I can think of is that if Chris Kyle and his partner had some kind of mental health pow wow with others their deaths may have been avoided. It's so positive and should be embraced.
Devildoc
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Glad I was sitting down when I read this. 9th circuit court delivers (narrow) pro-2A decision:
Ninth Circuit California Gun-Law Ruling: Good News for Second Amendment Rights | National Review
Ninth Circuit California Gun-Law Ruling: Good News for Second Amendment Rights | National Review
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Well, Brother...you know the old "broken watch theory"!
But, I will take every victory that I can...especially from that jurisdiction....
Kraut783
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That is very surprising from the 9th, but yep, I'll take it.
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Other fun news in the world of gun control:
Defense Distributed has settled with the DOJ. Gun model files (for 3D printing, etc.) will no longer be restricted under ITAR. You probably remember to Liberator pistol - the "world's first 3d printed gun". It's files were online for (I think) less than a week before they got shut down using ITAR as the pistol was being 'exported' via the internet.
Here's an article from Wired that isn't quite hysterical, but definitely against Cody Wilson's vision of the inevitable death of gun control
Here's an article from Reason that is in strong support.
Defense Distributed has settled with the DOJ. Gun model files (for 3D printing, etc.) will no longer be restricted under ITAR. You probably remember to Liberator pistol - the "world's first 3d printed gun". It's files were online for (I think) less than a week before they got shut down using ITAR as the pistol was being 'exported' via the internet.
Here's an article from Wired that isn't quite hysterical, but definitely against Cody Wilson's vision of the inevitable death of gun control
Here's an article from Reason that is in strong support.
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