Women in Combat Arms/ SOF Discussion

[TLDR20]

No leave during boot when I went through and I don't know any Marine I have ever meet that had it either. I'm talking about decades.

So no one ever starts basic before Christmas? Dude come on.

 

[TLDR20]

Didn't know exodus in the Army went back that far. I know so many people in the Corps and I guess an even older Army that never went home. Got the day for Church and went back to training. Hell, one of my friends was at Mountains phase Christmas of '99...says they trained through it. (Does that check out?)

I think your friend is full of shit.

TRADIC has done exodus for a long ass time. Like 25 years long.

 

[Marine0311]

So no one ever starts basic before Christmas? Dude come on.

No. That's not what I meant. They do start before basic but I was saying if one was in boot/basic you did not leave (to go home)....If I amd understanding the previous comments correctly.

 

[TLDR20]

No. That's not what I meant. They do start before basic but I was saying if one was in boot/basic you did not leave (to go home)....If I amd understanding the previous comments correctly.

Yeah you are right

 

[TLDR20]

Yeah that is what I am saying is BS. They certainly go home.

I'm wrong. Never mind.

 

[Marine0311]

I'm wrong. Never mind.

 

[Teufel]

So no one ever starts basic before Christmas? Dude come on.

The Marine Corps will authorize recruits four hours of personal time on Christmas Eve and another 4 hours of personal time on Christmas day. That's all you get. No one goes home until you quit or graduate.

 

[Teufel]

I think your friend is full of shit.

TRADIC has done exodus for a long ass time. Like 25 years long.

The Marine Corps does exodus too. Lots of recruits get to exodus their way out of boot camp. They just don't get to come back and they don't earn their Eagle Globe and Anchor.

 

[Marine0311]

The Marine Corps does exodus too. Lots of recruits get to exodus their way out of boot camp. They just don't get to come back and they don't earn their Eagle Globe and Anchor.

I was not fully aware of that. How does it work?

edit: LOL!

 

[Ooh-Rah]

The Marine Corps does exodus too. Lots of recruits get to exodus their way out of boot camp. They just don't get to come back and they don't earn their Eagle Globe and Anchor.

LOL...Sir, you had me worried for about 3 seconds!

 

[TLDR20]

The Marine Corps does exodus too. Lots of recruits get to exodus their way out of boot camp. They just don't get to come back and they don't earn their Eagle Globe and Anchor.

Yeah I was wrong as fuck.

 

[Teufel]

Yeah I was wrong as fuck.

Taking leave in the middle of boot camp sounds wrong as fuck to me too. So does having cell phones.

 

[Diamondback 2/2]

The Army does its block leave so that the Drill's and instructors can see their family and enjoy their holiday as well. It doesn't affect the training IMO, well accept for a few missing home and quitting, but I'm of the opinion of fuck them, didn't need them anyway, better in basic than at the unit.

Besides, Army basic is a fucking joke anyway and is not something to take any real measure of toughness and or meaning. The only two things that were challenges for me in Infantry OSUT was not beating the shit out of the dumb shits the Army recruits and road marching. Everything else was pretty easy, in fact boring most of the time.

 

[ThunderHorse]

There are female drills in the newest class of A TRP, 5-15 CAV. Are there female drills on Sand Hill?

 

[Ranger Psych]

Never knew any students that got leave during Ranger school. The three training battalions offset a class start and their cadre leave so that training can continue. Anyone who's a recycle during a leave rotation simply spends 2 weeks extra there while waiting for the next class to catch up to them, doing a half day of training, any details they have for maintenance prior to the next class coming up, and maybe an hour or two of "free time" other than rack time.

 

[Florida173]

The Army does its block leave so that the Drill's and instructors can see their family and enjoy their holiday as well. It doesn't affect the training IMO, well accept for a few missing home and quitting, but I'm of the opinion of fuck them, didn't need them anyway, better in basic than at the unit.

Besides, Army basic is a fucking joke anyway and is not something to take any real measure of toughness and or meaning. The only two things that were challenges for me in Infantry OSUT was not beating the shit out of the dumb shits the Army recruits and road marching. Everything else was pretty easy, in fact boring most of the time.

I went back and read some of the letters I wrote to my father while I was there and it reads like I was at summer camp. Sandhill probably had its moments, but I don't really recall anything hard. Maybe the 7 week wait for a slot at jump school and doing details everyday. I spent 6mos at Benning before I got to Bragg and had no injuries holding me back.

 

[18echo]

Never knew any students that got leave during Ranger school. The three training battalions offset a class start and their cadre leave so that training can continue. Anyone who's a recycle during a leave rotation simply spends 2 weeks extra there while waiting for the next class to catch up to them, doing a half day of training, any details they have for maintenance prior to the next class coming up, and maybe an hour or two of "free time" other than rack time.

December 1995, we were trucked back from Darby to Rogers, filled out DA 31's and left on 22 or 23 DEC, came back on 2 JAN.
They handed us back all 4 copies of our DA 31's.
The 2LT next to me quietly asked me, "How are they going to charge us leave if they don't keep a copy of the DA 31?"
As I was tearing my copies in to small pieces I replied, "What DA 31?"

In FEB when I was signing out on leave enroute after graduation, my leave balance showed zero days subtracted from Xmas. Still not sure if that was an Xmas gift or if the S1 section in RTB back then just didn't know how to process leave.

 

[Ranger Psych]

That's a bro-tier hookup.

 

[Brill]

December 1995, we were trucked back from Darby to Rogers, filled out DA 31's and left on 22 or 23 DEC, came back on 2 JAN.
They handed us back all 4 copies of our DA 31's.
The 2LT next to me quietly asked me, "How are they going to charge us leave if they don't keep a copy of the DA 31?"
As I was tearing my copies in to small pieces I replied, "What DA 31?"

In FEB when I was signing out on leave enroute after graduation, my leave balance showed zero days subtracted from Xmas. Still not sure if that was an Xmas gift or if the S1 section in RTB back then just didn't know how to process leave.

The 2LT just learned from the bro-fessor.

 

[Teufel]

December 1995, we were trucked back from Darby to Rogers, filled out DA 31's and left on 22 or 23 DEC, came back on 2 JAN.
They handed us back all 4 copies of our DA 31's.
The 2LT next to me quietly asked me, "How are they going to charge us leave if they don't keep a copy of the DA 31?"
As I was tearing my copies in to small pieces I replied, "What DA 31?"

In FEB when I was signing out on leave enroute after graduation, my leave balance showed zero days subtracted from Xmas. Still not sure if that was an Xmas gift or if the S1 section in RTB back then just didn't know how to process leave.

I've lost 30 days of leave every year since I joined the Marine Corps because of my deployment cycle (we have a cap on accumulated leave). Consider those days a gift.