Apparently, Denzel did not get the nod for command.
USS Alabama (SSBN 731) Commanding Officer Relieved
USS Alabama (SSBN 731) Commanding Officer Relieved
Your 2023 relieved Naval Commander Thread
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Very true, but unfortunately in this day and age the skipper could do one of a million things (which may or may not matter) and find their career ruined. The "loss of confidence" statement sounds great and neutral, but fails everyone.
High stakes when you are operating a nuclear reactor in an underwater tube, that also is carrying enough nuclear weapons to flatten the planet.
Thread drift: a good friend of mine retired as a Command Master Chief back in 2013 or so. Most of, or his entire (I forget) career was spent as a Fire Control tech on Boomers. They were conducting a drill one time, "We've just fired our missiles and detect a Russian attack sub. Go through the process to engage the sub" kind of thing.
"Joe": Hey, Chief, if we've launched our missiles why are we engaging? The planet's gone and our families are dead.
Chief: Shut the fuck up, Smith, and do your job.
Another aside: His wife kept a bag of clothes for him to change into after a patrol. Despite the amenities on a Boomer, his uniforms always had a certain smell to them.
"Joe": Hey, Chief, if we've launched our missiles why are we engaging? The planet's gone and our families are dead.
Chief: Shut the fuck up, Smith, and do your job.
Another aside: His wife kept a bag of clothes for him to change into after a patrol. Despite the amenities on a Boomer, his uniforms always had a certain smell to them.
I heard once that if a ballistic missile submarine was a country, it would be be the 4th most powerful in terms of nuclear weapons capability.
Devildoc
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My bro-in-law's roommate from college and BFF is the CO of a ballistic sub. I have been chatting with him a bit about the COs getting axed. Of course he is very careful about what he says. He says that on paper the confidence of any ship CO from harbor tug to carrier is the same, there is a very real pecking order; the CO of a carrier or boomer has zero room, the CO of a tug has a little more margin. He also says that the CO/XO relationship has to be very good, otherwise the CO is doing XO stuff and the CO stuff is at risk, and little problems occur, which add up to big problems. Also, the public will most often never hear anything beyond "loss of confidence", and if they do, it's because of a high-profile, public event like the Greenville, Fitzgerald, etc.
Most of his career was on Attack Boats, square peg, round hole?
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No impact, no idea.
Well this is a little bit of a plot twist. Some Navy brass got letters of censure over the way a fuel spill was handled in Hawaii.
Too bad they were already retired.
3 Retired Admirals Censured for Roles in the Red Hill Spill that Tainted Navy Community's Drinking Water
Too bad they were already retired.
3 Retired Admirals Censured for Roles in the Red Hill Spill that Tainted Navy Community's Drinking Water
Zero impact. Take some rank and then call it accountability.
The Navy protects too many senior officers. See Fat Leonard.
Devildoc
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Unless, of course, you are a CO of something. Then you are 'this' close to losing your job.
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So I have a question….(as another career bites the dust).
Does the Navy do any type of AAR when they ‘fire’ someone? At some point does someone stop and say, “ummm…maybe we should review our selection process and try to figure out why these men and women whom we once held in such high regard, are failing at an embarrassing rate. Are they not ready (trained) properly for the job the command they are being assigned?”
Navy fires captain of guided-missile cruiser USS Lake Erie
The commanding officer of the USS Lake Erie, Capt. Danielle DeFant, was fired on October 12 due to “a loss of confidence in her ability to command.”
DeFant — who is a ‘mustang,’ or naval officer who began her career as an enlisted sailor — was in command of the Lake Erie, a Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruiser, after several years of shore duty. She commanded the USS Paul Hamilton from March 2016 to December 2017 and had been assigned to various shore duty positions since, including in the office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Policy’s Global Force Management before returning to the Lake Erie.
Does the Navy do any type of AAR when they ‘fire’ someone? At some point does someone stop and say, “ummm…maybe we should review our selection process and try to figure out why these men and women whom we once held in such high regard, are failing at an embarrassing rate. Are they not ready (trained) properly for the job the command they are being assigned?”
Navy fires captain of guided-missile cruiser USS Lake Erie
The commanding officer of the USS Lake Erie, Capt. Danielle DeFant, was fired on October 12 due to “a loss of confidence in her ability to command.”
DeFant — who is a ‘mustang,’ or naval officer who began her career as an enlisted sailor — was in command of the Lake Erie, a Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruiser, after several years of shore duty. She commanded the USS Paul Hamilton from March 2016 to December 2017 and had been assigned to various shore duty positions since, including in the office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Policy’s Global Force Management before returning to the Lake Erie.
Canada has an entry... I have so many questions.
Canadian military begins investigation into allegation officer threatened to execute sailors on supply ship
Canadian military begins investigation into allegation officer threatened to execute sailors on supply ship
Devildoc
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Is his name Captain Queeg??
ThunderHorse
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Predecessor quit after 90 days, he lasted 6 months.
Issues won't get resolved until a massive house cleaning, or a guilt-free inspection identifies all the issues.
