Did you actually read all of that? I needed an abstract or synopsis or something. My TBI, by the time I got halfway through I was thinking about dinner.
I can't give them the benefit of the doubt, considering how many times the FBI has fucked up and how hyper partisan they are.I dunno, man. What that old man put out there went beyond the pale and likely exceeded the 1st amendment 'muh rights' threshold. I'd consider his invective 'actual crime,' even if the intent was just to go out and talk to the dude to assess risk (which is what USSS does, too).
I am waiting for more to come out before I knee-jerk on an anti-FBI rant.
Given the media coverage and some of the stuff I've been hearing from the old guys neighbors, this was an execution. It's someone sending a message.1st time I got to actually listen to that, thanks for posting.
Usually I'm going to wait one of these out and see the evidence, his intent and capability before making a judgement, but you have an excellent point. They had his cell, computers, probably some surveillance and 24 hour location.
Unless it turns out this dude had a rocket launcher or some C4 in that house I'd prefer the FBI be arresting the Utah branch of a human trafficking ring or drug cartel, which would not be making national news, than this ol' bat.
^ From today's article: "Others were shocked by the huge police response to the home of the 300-pound Air Force veteran turned carpenter, who walked around with a cane as he was barely mobile, according to people who knew him."
"Another neighbor, Andrew Maunder, described Robertson to the Salt Lake Tribune as a “harmless” old man...“There’s no way that he was driving from here to Salt Lake City, setting up a rifle and taking a shot at the president — 100% no way.”
If the FBI had enough to come back with a warrant, they had enough to know all the above. 6am...
I think satisfied enough of my curiosity on this one.
Trump supporter killed in FBI raid was a ‘teddy bear’ who cared for blind son but the ‘type to sleep with gun under his pillow’: neighbor
edit: I am in no way condoning pointing a gun at LE serving a warrant, but the timing and circumstances should have prevented this, or maybe even this was not warrant worthy.
He was - he was already on their radar for making past threats, and then had the nerve to single out the President's upcoming visit in the threat he posted two days before his arrival.This cat was in Utah. That is a LONG way from DC - as a result, he poses no relevant threat to anyone in DC. Put him on a no fly list, and send the men in black to question him on his behavior.
If the POTUS was in or arriving in Utah
And so they did - only hours before President Biden landed to celebrate a passed bipartisan veteran's healthcare bill 45 minutes away from him.- then IMMEDIATELY send the men in black to check this guy out.
You sound like a PR rep who works for the Biden administration. Almost sounds like you're upset the peasants are getting uppity.He was - he was already on their radar for making past threats, and then had the nerve to single out the President's upcoming visit in the threat he posted two days before his arrival.
And so they did - only hours before President Biden landed to celebrate a passed bipartisan veteran's healthcare bill 45 minutes away from him.
Whether or not it helps how you feel or whatever point you'd like to make, those are the things he did.You sound like a PR rep who works for the Biden administration. Almost sounds like you're upset the peasants are getting uppity.
If POTUS and his administration weren't so blaringly incompetent and corrupt, who lose wars and sell out US interests, maybe the peasants would be less scandalized. That's not even calling to question the legitimacy of this administration.
The world is laughing at our weakness, but I doubt you understand that.
You sound like a PR rep who works for the Biden administration. Almost sounds like you're upset the peasants are getting uppity.
If POTUS and his administration weren't so blaringly incompetent and corrupt, who lose wars and sell out US interests, maybe the peasants would be less scandalized. That's not even calling to question the legitimacy of this administration.
The world is laughing at our weakness, but I doubt you understand that.
Just making an observation Doc. An observation based on a pattern of behavior over the years and marketing speak regarding the shenanigans in DC.You often have some meaty suppositions, but this is awfully ad hominem.
My understanding from the article was they were there to serve both an arrest and a home search warrant, which might help explain the primary reason they went to his home. This is (in spite of his threatening history toward federal agents) aside from the secondary consideration of giving his 75-year-old self the benefit of the doubt and saving face for him by knocking on his door instead of ultimately cuffing him around a lot of other armed vets, physical therapy patients, or insert any unpredictable number of unknown people whose reactions you may be less able to control here.