Your 2024 Presidential Election Thread

I'm making this prediction now, and encourage others to remember it and bring it up in November, no matter what the results are.

Prediction: Trump/Vance will win convincingly. It will seem like a close race up to the election, but the results will be telling. I'm thinking Obama's second term; it felt like a close race until the results came back in. You heard it here first.

Caveats:
1) I think that I have gotten every presidential election prediction I ever made wrong. I thought Clinton was going to win against Trump, and that Trump would win against Biden. So I don't have a great track record on these things. However, I did notice (and state) early that I thought that the media and the Democratic party (which admittedly are pretty much the same thing at this point) had turned on Biden. So who knows...

2) I reserve the right to change the prediction prior to the election based on things that may happen between now and then. But I'm predicting Trump with a strong showing in the electoral college.

Edited to add: I originally said Trump/Pence instead of Trump/Vance. Because I'm an idiot.
 
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On paper there is no way in hell that Harris/Walz wins. Their background, social media, record, all of it, should send everybody left, right, and center running. But that's on paper. We know that the left will vote for any Democrat, regardless of how horrible they are.
 
PAY ME!

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Blizzard said:
The wife of Tim Walz...when she's not opening her windows to smell the city burning, she's posting this nonsense:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1820827261848756401

Sadly, there's a whole bunch of people that believe non of this matters. They will blindly vote for their person no matter what, simply because of the letter that follows their name on the ballot.
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Until she's getting tagged by 4 dudes that home invaded her, giving her the money shots while Tim the cuck, watches.
 
AWP said:
Random thought: how long do you have to hold the rank to retain it upon retirement? 3 years?
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He didn't hold the rank. He never completed school. He was working as a CSM; he was never an E9. He was an E8 in an E9 position. My brother has been doing the same thing (not even promotable) for like 2 years. It's why they "demoted" him on his retirement order.
 
BloodStripe said:
For the record, he’s a POS in my book. I read your link about saying he’s a retired CSM. What it actually says is “CSM Waltz retired..” That is a factual statement. He was a CSM at the time of his retirement. However, he did not serve two years in the rank of complete the schooling as you said, as required so his retirement rank is that of an E8.

Trump too had an opportunity to serve his country and cried bone spurs. He’s the definition of a fortunate son.
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My brother in Christ, this is a misunderstanding of the bare facts of the case.

He claimed he served in OEF; that's not true. He "deployed" for a couple of months to Italy in support of the ODYSSEY series—not Iraq, not Afghanistan, Italy. He had ORDERS to Iraq. He retired. Another man took his place and deployed for *nearly two years*.

Now, you can make whatever equivocation you want due to whatever personal biases you may have, and that's fine. But Walz didn't earn the rank of E9, ever. Guess what? I was the SEL (in Air Force, "Chief") of a unit for a brief time while my E9 was deployed. Then I retired. Did I retire as a CMSgt? By your logic here, I sure did. Can't wait to tell people. In reality- nope. I was an E8. Cause that's what's on my retirement order. And that's what matters, and you're smart, and you know that. So that means you're being obtuse on purpose. Quit it.

You know as well as I do that "finishing your service" does NOT mean "retired" in the context of military service, and he most certainly never "deployed in support of OEF and carried weapons of war." That's a lie.
 
BloodStripe said:
So the question is, was he wearing the rank or in a billet?
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Billet. E8, in an E9 billet.

He was ‘wearing the rank’ because, for the third time, *the Army will let you put a patch with the rank on your uniform while serving in the position so your subordinates grant you professional deference but not promote you or pay you for that rank until you’re actually promoted to that rank*.

He was never an E9. He was not a CSM. He sat in the office and did the work. Then he retired cause he didn’t wanna go to Iraq. So the army retired him as an E8. Because he wasn’t an E9.

Bro you obviously have the internet. Please help me help you here.
 
amlove21 said:
He didn't hold the rank. He never completed school. He was working as a CSM; he was never an E9. He was an E8 in an E9 position. My brother has been doing the same thing (not even promotable) for like 2 years. It's why they "demoted" him on his retirement order.
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The Army, Guard/Reserves in paticular, is weird in that we'd do what you're describing with your brother (Frocking) as well as actually promote people before PME and demote them if they didn't complete it.

It's called a STEP promotion now, used to be called a conditional promotion. You get the rank and pay under this, then you'd need to complete your school within 12-36 months (depending on rules) or you'd lose the promotion.

I see this type of promotion much more often than I do frocking.

Doesn't change that he retired as an E8, but it is possible he was an E9 with pay.
 
Cookie_ said:
The Army, Guard/Reserves in paticular, is weird in that we'd do what you're describing with your brother (Frocking) as well as actually promote people before PME and demote them if they didn't complete it.

It's called a STEP promotion now, used to be called a conditional promotion. You get the rank and pay under this, then you'd need to complete your school within 12-36 months (depending on rules) or you'd lose the promotion.

I see this type of promotion much more often than I do frocking.

Doesn't change that he retired as an E8, but it is possible he was an E9 with pay.
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Frocking is a big thing for navy enlisted. All the responsibility of the higher rank, none of the bennies.
 

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