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Blocking any hashtags that had #cancelnetflix in it was and I quote "To keep the Facebook community safe". Exactly safe from what, is the million dollar question here.
 
Two of the Squad lost primaries because of their pro Gaza (Hamas terrorists and those that keep voting to be lead by them) anti Israeli stances.

Cori Bush (MO) and Jamaal Bowman (NY).

Either they didn't try to buy off the local rabbis for those two sects I told y'all about or just maybe there's actual NPC's becoming self aware going on here.
 
Yeah, let's talk about DUI's.

Technically he may be an OEF Vet, as his deployment to Italy may have been funded by OEF funds.
I think you are right. OEF is strongly associated with Afghanistan but the term also became a bit of a catch all name for the GWOT as well. Some examples include OEF-HOA, OEF-Phillipines, OEF-Trans Sahara, and believe it or not OEF-Central America & Caribbean. I think the last one will be featured prominently in the upcoming series Narcos Grupo Siete.

https://comptroller.defense.gov/Por...udget_Contingency_Operations(Base_Budget).pdf
 
I think you are right. OEF is strongly associated with Afghanistan but the term also became a bit of a catch all name for the GWOT as well. Some examples include OEF-HOA, OEF-Phillipines, OEF-Trans Sahara, and believe it or not OEF-Central America & Caribbean. I think the last one will be featured prominently in the upcoming series Narcos Grupo Siete.

https://comptroller.defense.gov/Por...udget_Contingency_Operations(Base_Budget).pdf
My trip to Colombia was OEF-CCA.
 
I think you are right. OEF is strongly associated with Afghanistan but the term also became a bit of a catch all name for the GWOT as well. Some examples include OEF-HOA, OEF-Phillipines, OEF-Trans Sahara, and believe it or not OEF-Central America & Caribbean. I think the last one will be featured prominently in the upcoming series Narcos Grupo Siete.

https://comptroller.defense.gov/Por...udget_Contingency_Operations(Base_Budget).pdf
Pardon my ignorance here, but wasn't OEF against Islamic terrorism or was it mainly that and some others tossed in? I'm kind of bewildered that there were actions in our backyards so to speak.
 
In 2002 we were on the fence for OEF-Afghanistan and OEF-Philippines (AQ elements there). I was happy we got the desert and not the jungles. As far as south America...AQ, and others, were present in the South American Tri-Border Area (TBA), to plan attacks on the US.

Terrorist and Organized Crime Groups in the Tri-Border Area (TBA) of South America
Defense Technical Information Center
 
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I mean, it seems like this would be an easy thing to check. Did he draw combat pay? Did he earn a SSFFWS (combat patch)? If so, he was "in the war." If not, then he wasn't.

Saying he was "in OEF" because he hung out in Italy OEF support orders makes about as much sense to me as saying someone was "in OEF" because he earned the GWOT-S medal. We **all** supported OEF if we were in the Army at that time, one way or the other. **Not all** of us were "in war."
 
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I mean, it seems like this would be an easy thing to check. Did he draw combat pay? Did he earn a SSFFWS (combat patch)? If so, he was "in the war." If not, then he wasn't.

Saying he was "in OEF" because he had OEF support orders makes about as much sense to me as saying someone was "in OEF" because he earned the GWOT-S medal. We **all** supported OEF if we were in the Army at that time, one way or the other. **Not all** of us were "in war."
I get what you’re saying. But at the same time all of us got a GWOT-EX for being awake during terrorism. I’m not defending his record but we over used the term OEF to our disadvantage.
 
In 2002 we were on the fence for OEF-Afghanistan and OEF-Philippines (AQ elements there). I was happy we got the desert and not the jungles. As far as south America...AQ, and others, were present in the South American Tri-Border Area (TBA), to plan attacks on the US.

Terrorist and Organized Crime Groups in the Tri-Border Area (TBA) of South America
Defense Technical Information Center

Yeah I got hazard pay and one of my trips to SA was technically part of OEF…however while I would call those deployments, they weren’t combat.
 
I get what you’re saying. But at the same time all of us got a GWOT-EX for being awake during terrorism. I’m not defending his record but we over used the term OEF to our disadvantage.
Are you maybe confusing the two awards? IIRC the GWOT-S was for being awake during terrorism. GWOT-E you actually had to go somewhere and do something. And a GWOT-E still not necessarily "in war."
 
Yeah I got hazard pay and one of my trips to SA was technically part of OEF…however while I would call those deployments, they weren’t combat.
This brings up an interesting question about semantics. You say you weren't in combat, but were you "in war?" For example, I frequently say that I am a "war vet" but not a "combat vet," because to me they are two different things.
 
This brings up an interesting question about semantics. You say you weren't in combat, but were you "in war?" For example, I frequently say that I am a "war vet" but not a "combat vet," because to me they are two different things.
I’m not sure anymore. It’s all relative I suppose. I was in some hairy situations but I’m not sure it was war. Not like Ukraine is experiencing.
 
I think the interesting thing is we can’t even decide what is right..

He was a SGM, in rank and responsibility for sure. But not in professional development? He got a DUI, that is lame, but so have literally a ton of guys in the military. Including some of my best friends, like it or not I have certainly deserved one in my past.

I personally do not think getting out after 24 years with or without a deployment makes someone a shitbag. The military is one part of any persons life. If life lines up a certain way, and you want to get out, fucking get out.

How many people here have changed units, went to schools, or did numerous other things that changed their position or MOS or whatever that may have impacted their unit as a whole? I don’t see that as dodging anything, it is a big military and it goes on without all of us.
 
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