The Quartermaster
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A testament to the bluest blue falcon who thought of himself and his own agenda more than his bros and sisters.
Your 2024 Presidential Election Thread
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I never heard of the Mission Act before, in case others are curious: https://www.va.gov/COMMUNITYCARE/docs/pubfiles/factsheets/VHA-FS_MISSION-Act.pdf
I don't know how to tell if he voted for it or not.
I don't know how to tell if he voted for it or not.
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Listen, when even the Chaplain calls you a coward, you've messed up -- bad!
Exclusive | Chaplain of Tim Walz’s National Guard battalion calls VP pick ‘cowardly’ for abandoning unit
Exclusive | Chaplain of Tim Walz’s National Guard battalion calls VP pick ‘cowardly’ for abandoning unit
While any leader is likely to have both cheerleaders and straight haters, especially in a polarizing election, I think it's telling to hear what the people who actually served with someone have to say about them. So far... yikes.
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What is Army values
Is the senior leadership the top standard for the Army Values for all enlisted and noncoms, commissioned, and warrants or not? If the one at the top of the line for enlisted cannot exemplify to be the gold standard of what Selfless Service is as part of the Army Values for his battalion, then he's a charlatan and this should be uncontested and allowable to condemn for.
Please read to all of us what Selfless Service entails. In fact, read us all of it. Here, I will leave a link for you to read it:
Army Values
The bottom line here is that he chose himself and his own agenda over the needs of his men, that's why he got out after getting the orders to deploy which is exactly what a shitbag is and does. And judging from his reputation afterwards of the bad things he's done, he always was a shitbag and continues to not peak at being one either.
FWIW, I didn't take the cowards way out when Clinton or Obama was elected. Instead I stuck with and finished my service honorably because it's my country right or wrong. Presidents come and go, but this nation is ours forever and it is those to my left and right that matters more than my stupid and petty feelings over whom is now CIC.
And at the NG level, his selfless service was not just to the nation but also to his state. He failed to do both because he chose himself. He was supposed to be the living, breathing, embodiment of selfless service. He chose otherwise.
Here is where I give my rebuttal. While I agree if one wants out, let them out. However I see it as s straw man in this instance.
Is the senior leadership the top standard for the Army Values for all enlisted and noncoms, commissioned, and warrants or not? If the one at the top of the line for enlisted cannot exemplify to be the gold standard of what Selfless Service is as part of the Army Values for his battalion, then he's a charlatan and this should be uncontested and allowable to condemn for.
Please read to all of us what Selfless Service entails. In fact, read us all of it. Here, I will leave a link for you to read it:
Army Values
The bottom line here is that he chose himself and his own agenda over the needs of his men, that's why he got out after getting the orders to deploy which is exactly what a shitbag is and does. And judging from his reputation afterwards of the bad things he's done, he always was a shitbag and continues to not peak at being one either.
FWIW, I didn't take the cowards way out when Clinton or Obama was elected. Instead I stuck with and finished my service honorably because it's my country right or wrong. Presidents come and go, but this nation is ours forever and it is those to my left and right that matters more than my stupid and petty feelings over whom is now CIC.
And at the NG level, his selfless service was not just to the nation but also to his state. He failed to do both because he chose himself. He was supposed to be the living, breathing, embodiment of selfless service. He chose otherwise.
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How many corrections does the campaign need to make....
https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/10/politics/walz-national-guard-harris-campaign/index.html
Yeah, nah. He knew what he was doing at the time and the bill came due this week. He didn't misspeak.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/10/politics/walz-national-guard-harris-campaign/index.html
Yeah, nah. He knew what he was doing at the time and the bill came due this week. He didn't misspeak.
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Roll Call 189 Roll Call 189, Bill Number: S. 2372, 115th Congress, 2nd Session
70 No votes, all Democrat. His is one of them. Roll Call votes are searchable now, pretty sick.
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I've made ZERO claims about my time in Afghanistan beyond my Bagram to Go takeout and such, Ring Route flights and whatever. I like to think I've represented myself appropriately. That said, I could make some amazing claims, all of them legit, all of them trash.
This isn't a flex, so I hope our members don't see this as such, but I can out CV Gov. Walz and my CV is kind of trash. Wording matters, locations matter, orders matter, actual in country experiences matter.
I was a contractor and a fobbit. I saw more "combat" than Gov. Walz, but then what? What's the break point here?
Here's where the veteran community gets "weird." What are our definitions? As I posted earlier about OEF, what makes an OEF vet? You have OEF orders? I'm onboard, I am. Your time was in Italy? I'm onboard. If we have some grey area tier list...my 9 years in Afghanistan will trump your 12 months in Italy all day long and twice on Sunday.
Veterans, what are our red lines? Not Obama red lines, but red lines that actually matter?
Bro I think most people's red lines are "there are no red lines as long as my side wins."
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SOF Support
And the base in Italy is protected by carabinieri... so I don't even understand what they could have possibly done. "Deploying" to a location that other people are stationed at seems a bit bizarre to me. It's more like a TCS move funded by OEF funds. To your point regarding CVs. I actually did a year long OEF deployment in support of Africa... in Stutgart. It was not a hardship that in anyway deserves recognition. But still.. thank me for my service!
For me, it's in theater. Deploying to the JRIC stateside on OEF orders for reach back support doesn't do it for me. That theater could be Afghanistan, the Horn of Africa, West Africa, etc., though. Ironically enough, I interacted with more dead terrorists in Africa as CI than I did in Afghanistan as Infantry, but I was certainly safer in Africa. Individual experiences may vary.
When it comes to the CV aspect like some have mentioned, I was an augmentee in Afghanistan on SOCOM orders. I ran the MeS SOJTF-A/NSOCC-A CI platform providing direct support for CI screening of all NATO SOF partner forces in the North. There was also overlap to cover screenings for 7th Grp and 1st Grp out in Kunduz. To this day I'll still make the distinction that I was an augmentee and not SOF support because I'm still not sure if that were to qualify towards my SQI designation.
When it comes to the CV aspect like some have mentioned, I was an augmentee in Afghanistan on SOCOM orders. I ran the MeS SOJTF-A/NSOCC-A CI platform providing direct support for CI screening of all NATO SOF partner forces in the North. There was also overlap to cover screenings for 7th Grp and 1st Grp out in Kunduz. To this day I'll still make the distinction that I was an augmentee and not SOF support because I'm still not sure if that were to qualify towards my SQI designation.
I have better hair!
Because you wouldn't come over and play COD with the boys so I could out gun you and talk shit.
Facts.
Bro. Those are fighting words. When I was with the 160th, I was UNSTOPPABLE at old school CoD on a desktop. In Afghanistan all we did was lift, eat, watch... movies, do ops, and play CoD.
I was so good, West Point's Modern War Institute published an article about it. I would have pwned you back in the day.
Competition, Call of Duty, and “Naked Chicks with Guns”: Lessons on Teambuilding from an Elite Special Operations Unit - Modern War Institute
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