The Quartermaster
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What is Army values
Is the senior leadership the top standard for the Army Values for all enlisted and noncoms, commissioned, and warrants or not? If the one at the top of the line for enlisted cannot exemplify to be the gold standard of what Selfless Service is as part of the Army Values for his battalion, then he's a charlatan and this should be uncontested and allowable to condemn for.
Please read to all of us what Selfless Service entails. In fact, read us all of it. Here, I will leave a link for you to read it:
Army Values
The bottom line here is that he chose himself and his own agenda over the needs of his men, that's why he got out after getting the orders to deploy which is exactly what a shitbag is and does. And judging from his reputation afterwards of the bad things he's done, he always was a shitbag and continues to not peak at being one either.
FWIW, I didn't take the cowards way out when Clinton or Obama was elected. Instead I stuck with and finished my service honorably because it's my country right or wrong. Presidents come and go, but this nation is ours forever and it is those to my left and right that matters more than my stupid and petty feelings over whom is now CIC.
And at the NG level, his selfless service was not just to the nation but also to his state. He failed to do both because he chose himself. He was supposed to be the living, breathing, embodiment of selfless service. He chose otherwise.
Here is where I give my rebuttal. While I agree if one wants out, let them out. However I see it as s straw man in this instance.I think the interesting thing is we can’t even decide what is right..
He was a SGM, in rank and responsibility for sure. But not in professional development? He got a DUI, that is lame, but so have literally a ton of guys in the military. Including some of my best friends, like it or not I have certainly deserved one in my past.
I personally do not think getting out after 24 years with or without a deployment makes someone a shitbag. The military is one part of any persons life. If life lines up a certain way, and you want to get out, fucking get out.
How many people here have changed units, went to schools, or did numerous other things that changed their position or MOS or whatever that may have impacted their unit as a whole? I don’t see that as dodging anything, it is a big military and it goes on without all of us.
Is the senior leadership the top standard for the Army Values for all enlisted and noncoms, commissioned, and warrants or not? If the one at the top of the line for enlisted cannot exemplify to be the gold standard of what Selfless Service is as part of the Army Values for his battalion, then he's a charlatan and this should be uncontested and allowable to condemn for.
Please read to all of us what Selfless Service entails. In fact, read us all of it. Here, I will leave a link for you to read it:
Army Values
The bottom line here is that he chose himself and his own agenda over the needs of his men, that's why he got out after getting the orders to deploy which is exactly what a shitbag is and does. And judging from his reputation afterwards of the bad things he's done, he always was a shitbag and continues to not peak at being one either.
FWIW, I didn't take the cowards way out when Clinton or Obama was elected. Instead I stuck with and finished my service honorably because it's my country right or wrong. Presidents come and go, but this nation is ours forever and it is those to my left and right that matters more than my stupid and petty feelings over whom is now CIC.
And at the NG level, his selfless service was not just to the nation but also to his state. He failed to do both because he chose himself. He was supposed to be the living, breathing, embodiment of selfless service. He chose otherwise.
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