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John Oliver tells me that Grossman is problematic.. so I can't listen to him
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John Oliver tells me that Grossman is problematic.. so I can't listen to him
Part of the pressure to do away with policing is an arrest record keeps one in poverty (low paying jobs). No cops=no arresting which by some thinking will result in less arresting which mean less poverty. But the logic doesn't consider if crime is increasing, what will reduce the number of criminal mischief (nobody get killed or hurt) and criminal acts (rape, murder, spousal/child abuse).
FBI statistics in 1955 estimated 1 of 15 persons in the United States’ working age population had been arrested and fingerprinted for the commission, or alleged commission, of criminal acts. By 2012, statistics assert 1 of 3 persons in the United States had an arrest record by the age of 23.
https://www.sentencingproject.org/w...l-Records-Poverty-and-Opportunity-Profile.pdf
FBI statistics in 1955 estimated 1 of 15 persons in the United States’ working age population had been arrested and fingerprinted for the commission, or alleged commission, of criminal acts. By 2012, statistics assert 1 of 3 persons in the United States had an arrest record by the age of 23.
https://www.sentencingproject.org/w...l-Records-Poverty-and-Opportunity-Profile.pdf
It curious reasoning, but I’m sure there’s more to the argument: less law enforcement leads to a positive economic outcome.
A valid perspective as positive economic outcome is reduction in unemployability and increased hire opportunity to the higher paying and more attractive jobs. The accompanying silent assertion (or prediction) is this will lower crime or at least shift the crime to less violent so called white collar crimes.
The assertion of " The U.S. poverty rate would have dropped by 20 percent if not for the trend of mass incarceration over the past several decades" has complication of what was the unemployment rate each year and inconvenience of unemployment rate being higher in some cities and areas than others. Presuming all have equal ability there is still problem of being able doesn't necessarily have accompaniment of being willing to get qualified (training and education) or having equal access to the training and education to do those jobs. Crime will still happen that needs to be responded to investigated and lead in an arrest for the courts to deal with.
The assertion of " The U.S. poverty rate would have dropped by 20 percent if not for the trend of mass incarceration over the past several decades" has complication of what was the unemployment rate each year and inconvenience of unemployment rate being higher in some cities and areas than others. Presuming all have equal ability there is still problem of being able doesn't necessarily have accompaniment of being willing to get qualified (training and education) or having equal access to the training and education to do those jobs. Crime will still happen that needs to be responded to investigated and lead in an arrest for the courts to deal with.
BlueLeaks: Activist Group Publishes More Than 1 Million Police and...
Fusion centers aren't informationally secured too well, it seems.
Fusion centers aren't informationally secured too well, it seems.
At least he is being equitable in who he goes after.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-signs-executive-order-to-protect-american-monuments
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-signs-executive-order-to-protect-american-monuments
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Eh... not really. The so called 'Boogaloo" is kind of an inside joke. It's ridiculous anyone right of left, who is discontent with govt overreach, is gonna be targeted. Leftist Marxists riot, rape, kill, burn, and destroy our collective history, but for some reason right wing groups are a worry.
There's little wonder why American's are gearing up, getting in shape, and buying up all the ammo around them. Big gov doesn't have the common citizens back. Meanwhile leftist politicians/bureaucrats are scraping and sniveling to a bunch of Marxist savages, that will quite happily slit our collective throats and toss us into a shallow ditch.
As this thing continues though, I'm starting to empathize more and more with the White Russians of 1918.
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Seeing the exact same in my area now.
Eh... not really. The so called 'Boogaloo" is kind of an inside joke. It's ridiculous anyone right of left, who is discontent with govt overreach, is gonna be targeted. Leftist Marxists riot, rape, kill, burn, and destroy our collective history, but for some reason right wing groups are a worry.
There's little wonder why American's are gearing up, getting in shape, and buying up all the ammo around them. Big gov doesn't have the common citizens back. Meanwhile leftist politicians/bureaucrats are scraping and sniveling to a bunch of Marxist savages, that will quite happily slit our collective throats and toss us into a shallow ditch.
As this thing continues though, I'm starting to empathize more and more with the White Russians of 1918.
All the data tends to point towards most Domestic Terrorism being far-right/alt-right affiliated groups.
Violence by far-right is among US’s most dangerous terrorist threats, study finds
Now, we could get into a discussion about how right wing groups are more likely to have traditional organization/planning structures whereas leftists groups are more centered around "Ideals" and less rigid leadership organization, so this probably skews the data.
ETA: This sorta circles back to that "is BLM a group or a movement" question I asked a week or two back. There is definitely that BLM group created by marxists, but they've also effectively turned it into a movement in which many splinter groups are not aligned with/have no knowledge of the original group. In effect, they've attached their tendrils to a social movement that would have happened with or without them are are attempting to steer the ship.
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I didn't bother doing a Hitler Video for the elections....but had some fun doing this instead....
Good luck Minneapolis
Good luck Minneapolis
Florida173
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Can you give me an example of a far-right extremist group that you believe the authorities should start looking at? You keep bringing it up as if our government has been ignoring something.
These are just the ones I remember off the top of my head which could be considered "right wing" terrorism. As we've discussed on here before, "right vs. left" doesn't really work to well, but it's sort of the only metric we have now.
Two recent ones
Boogaloo arrests reveal new extremist agenda to hijack protests
Far-right 'boogaloo boys' linked to killing of California law officers and other violence
Two older ones
There was another right-wing terrorist incident this weekend.
Coast Guard lieutenant, dubbed 'domestic terrorist,' had hit list of media bigs and Dem lawmakers: prosecutors
My point isn't that the government is ignoring it; they catch a lot of these (statistically) dudes before something pops off.
If we want to talk about the propensity to judge the group vs the "individual who happened to be a member of a group" based on how much we(general we, not you/me specific) agree with their politics/actions/methods/etc., that's something we can dive into.
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Not ignoring, just investigating and charging on other charges...as there is no Domestic Terrorism statute. It's just recently (past 3-4 years) the media and govt statements are using the term domestic terrorism for more than they use to.
IMHO.
IMHO.
Florida173
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Do you mind being a bit more concise on what your actual point is?
In the theme of a thread about George Floyd and the BLM protests that are dramatically more left leaning with far left extremists taking the advantage of the situation, you want to keep bringing up far right exceptions to this global movement. I think we all get it and you have provided some great examples of how people in the government are indeed spending a lot of time catching these guys too. Now it's great our government might spend some more resources defeating the far left networks that are as likely as being motivated by foreign adversaries as the other side.
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Michael Johnson speaks with Prince Harry, Meghan Markle about Madison protests
Didn't we win a war to keep that family out of our business?
Didn't we win a war to keep that family out of our business?
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So, legit question: at what point in one's life or career does the benefits outweigh any racist or bigotry behavior? For instance, if he had cured cancer they still take his name off? If he invented the light bulb, would they have taken his name off? Nathaniel Bedford Forrest, check, I get it. No problem. But some of the people, they're throwing the baby out with the bath water.
I'd like to give you answer, but I'm starting to feel like one doesn't exist, sadly.
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