If the kids getting their brains blown out because they got caught in the crossfire, or watched as their dad gets executed while they're in the backseat of the car didn't wake them up. This won't either.
National Protest and 'disband the cops' discussion (please review page 1)
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If the kids getting their brains blown out because they got caught in the crossfire, or watched as their dad gets executed while they're in the backseat of the car didn't wake them up. This won't either.
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No, it isn't, nor does it suggest anything about whether my post had commentary - much less try to 'mislead' people into thinking that something they can scroll up to see is suddenly not there.
Hell, I don't even have those editing privileges.
It focuses on the fact that you asked about how to judge 'something' that was 'brought up a couple of weeks ago when that was published' in terms of 'figurative cost in votes going to Trump or actual cost of over a billion dollars'.
Unless a claim in my commentary directly prompted that question in those metrics, there is no basis to construe my pointing out the disparity between your question and the actual claims in the article as an intentional bait-and-switch, since there is no advantage to be gained for me by doing it.
This being the case, what you did may be the actual misleading element in this discussion, since you're purposely shifting attention towards a less relevant element of the post that ultimately holds no bearing to the original point.
Or, as some prefer, a classic red herring.
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I hate it for the kids, I really do, but let's not use them as pawns to make points.
The fact we're even having this discussion shows how screwed up things have become in our country.
Where we all thought we were headed in the past few years....we're going there.
Where we all thought we were headed in the past few years....we're going there.
That's not what I was talking about at all, I was referencing the massive increase in terms gang violence and shootings across the Country. Nothing I said had anything to do with Police related shootings.
To add, I'll have to find the specific instances I had referenced give me a few.
^I understand those references, the overwhelming majority of serious violent crime victims in America are poor black people.
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Here you go, I wasn't able to find the one where the parent was executed but I may have misread the article I'll see if I can find it but if I don't post anything then I'll own it.
Just wondering, what part of that post made you think I was hanging the kids deaths on police? Or had anything to do with the shooting in Kenosha?
Infant critically wounded in Bishop Ford Expy. shooting
Here you go, I wasn't able to find the one where the parent was executed but I may have misread the article I'll see if I can find it but if I don't post anything then I'll own it.
Just wondering, what part of that post made you think I was hanging the kids deaths on police? Or had anything to do with the shooting in Kenosha?
Infant critically wounded in Bishop Ford Expy. shooting
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So the riots weren’t that big of deal?No, it isn't, nor does it suggest anything about whether my post had commentary - much less try to 'mislead' people into thinking that something they can scroll up to see is suddenly not there.
Hell, I don't even have those editing privileges.
It focuses on the fact that you asked about how to judge 'something' that was 'brought up a couple of weeks ago when that was published' in terms of 'figurative cost in votes going to Trump or actual cost of over a billion dollars'.
Unless a claim in my commentary directly prompted that question in those metrics, there is no basis to construe my pointing out the disparity between your question and the actual claims in the article as an intentional bait-and-switch, since there is no advantage to be gained for me by doing it.
This being the case, what you did may be the actual misleading element in this discussion, since you're purposely shifting attention towards a less relevant element of the post that ultimately holds no bearing to the original point.
Or, as some prefer, a classic red herring.
You were vague. I made the same assumption that @compforce did.
"Studies" showing how "peaceful" the riots are are proof the unrest is hurting democrats and helping Trump.No, it isn't, nor does it suggest anything about whether my post had commentary - much less try to 'mislead' people into thinking that something they can scroll up to see is suddenly not there.
Hell, I don't even have those editing privileges.
It focuses on the fact that you asked about how to judge 'something' that was 'brought up a couple of weeks ago when that was published' in terms of 'figurative cost in votes going to Trump or actual cost of over a billion dollars'.
Unless a claim in my commentary directly prompted that question in those metrics, there is no basis to construe my pointing out the disparity between your question and the actual claims in the article as an intentional bait-and-switch, since there is no advantage to be gained for me by doing it.
This being the case, what you did may be the actual misleading element in this discussion, since you're purposely shifting attention towards a less relevant element of the post that ultimately holds no bearing to the original point.
Or, as some prefer, a classic red herring.
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I think they were a big deal and really hurt the message of those who were peacefully trying to have their grievances addressed.
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Interestingly these were normal headlines from the town south of mine every month if not weekly when I was growing up. We used to call it Gang Violence, but now newspapers are calling them mass shootings and sometimes without referencing that it is gang violence, because the focus seems to be to defund police departments and restricting gun rights for the law abiding.
Noticing that is from the south side of Chicago it's unsurprising. Crime in the South Side has been skyrocketing since the Mayor basically gave in to the mob.
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Sure, my inbox is open to continue the derail so we can let the broader discussion continue, in case I've already taken too much thread space responding to each reply.
Seeing as this is the George Floyd/National Protest thread I feel like it would be fine, but sure. Stand by.
The worst part of it all is, for those who didn't grow up around those areas they don't really have an understanding of it. They see it on the news or hear about it on social media and the immediate reaction is "oh that's unfortunate" then move on immediately to whatever they were doing. Since it doesn't affect them directly it's in essence out of sight out of mind.
I think that's what's going on with a lot of the defund the police crowd. I'm not really seeing the mom of 3 on EBT with the dude slinging on the corner calling for no more police, but the college kid with a Che body pillow doing it.
I don't know, not really sure how to word what I'm trying to say effectively right now.
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Devildoc
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That the riots were allowed at all under the misleading label of "protests" is criminal and speaks volumes about the municipal leadership who allows it.
Oh they were find and dandy here in Portland, hell the mayor even took part (and PPB had fun macing his ass) until they moved it to outside his house. Now they were a problem and he "has to move because of what this did to his neighbors".
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