- Feb 14, 2012
This is my favorite part about the internet. I looked at all available facts, put 2+2 together, and made a read of the scenario- and you said I haven’t proven
anything. It’s not science, man. Also- I was right, so how is that not ‘proof’?
Well, you claimed a few different things. This one, which you haven't proven:
So, in internet *ackshually* terms- sure, the VP has OCA. In the context of this specific conversation, no, he does not possess that authority.
This claim, the last bit of which appears to be more conjecture than written fact:
What he does not have, however, is the authority to declassify documents that his office did not initially classify. President Obama enacted executive order 13526, denoting who possesses declassification authority and while the VP is named, his power is much more truncated than a sitting president.
This one, which appears to be an unproven extension of that conjecture:
For example, then-VP Biden would have to show the process he used to declassify any document that his office itself did not initially classify; then he will have to show that he could possess those documents when he left office.
This one, which you were able to demonstrate by providing a fresh news article reporting more classified materials found from POTUS' days in Congress.
Marked, called, and noted! Thanks.I’m happy to say, right now, that the documents stored in 3 separate locations (office, home, garage) were not classified by Biden’s office as the OCA, and
therefore are in his possession in conflict with the reg. Mark the time, call me on it later.
And this claim, which would depend on whether he was given declassification authority by an OCA for those materials while in Congress (not very likely):
As stated above- more documents found. No declassification authority as a senator.
As for this:
It looks like you're picking at a point with which we already agree: the basis for his investigation stands regardless of whether or not he claimed to declassify (he didn't) the documents that were found.
Rather, I'm speaking about the basis for the investigation into President Biden, which stands whether or not he claimed to declassify any materials because either way he did not store them properly, which is all Justice needs to proceed with a case.No, I don’t agree with that point. The president doesn’t need to say he declassified anything at all and therefore the basis of the investigation is politically motivated by a partisan DOJ. That’s why I asked you to go back and do a little more research so we aren’t rehashing old ground, but here we are.
I'm going to guess the rest of your response was based on that same misread of the comment, since I wasn't making any of those points.<snip>