The self identity thread.

I don't think he would have had an unfair advantage competing against boys.

The difference in my opinion is that his "PED's" were prescribed by a physician to treat a medically recognized condition. Even the NFL allows players to used banned supplements if it is in conjunction with a medically viable treatment.

I agree, she probably would have gotten wrecked if she wrestled boys in the same weight class. That's probably one of the reasons there are boys sports and girls sports.
 
Saw this update today. Rachel Dolezal still insists she did nothing wrong | Daily Mail Online

Dolezal told the newspaper that she is currently jobless and feeding her family with food stamps.
Her friend reportedly helped her pay two months worth of rent and she said she expects to be homeless.
Dolezal said she has applied for more than 100 jobs, including a position at the university where she used to teach, but no one will hire her.
The only work she has been offered is reality TV, and porn.

Considering it was mom and dad who dimed her out, I have to imagine there are no touchy-feely Hallmark Moments come May and June.

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Well...if you are going to go full retard, then go full retard.

Rachel Dolezal changes her name to Nkechi Diallo | Daily Mail Online
 
It seems kinda weird that society loves trans-gender people, hates trans-racial people, and hasn't made up its mind about trans-abled, otherkin, etc...
If rachel dolezal told everyone she was a man they would lionize her and bend over backward to accommodate her, the difference being there are far fewer differences between race than between gender. Also, I'll just post this here because I found it pretty entertaining and it's relevant, Ben Shapiro went on Dr. Drew a while ago to debate Caitlyn genders courage award if anyone missed it.

 
It seems kinda weird that society loves trans-gender people, hates trans-racial people, and hasn't made up its mind about trans-abled, otherkin, etc...
If rachel dolezal told everyone she was a man they would lionize her and bend over backward to accommodate her, the difference being there are far fewer differences between race than between gender. Also, I'll just post this here because I found it pretty entertaining and it's relevant, Ben Shapiro went on Dr. Drew a while ago to debate Caitlyn genders courage award if anyone missed it.


Society "loves" trans people? Where the fuck are you getting that information?
 
Society "loves" trans people? Where the fuck are you getting that information?
OK, maybe loves was the wrong word, my point was the difference between the way people look at trans-gender people and the way people look at other types of trans people is very large and unjustifiably so. It seems inconsistent, to say the least.

Patriotism class
*sighs*...well played.
 
Trans-abled idiots need some serious professional help. I'm not an amputee but I'm disabled and wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy (not quick enough of a death ;-)). And as someone with lifelong mental illness to deal with, we went wrong when we shut down major facilities and stopped locking people up. If you willingly want to chop off a limb, you need medication and possibly shock therapy. But they might like the shock therapy.:rolleyes:
 
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I think if society went back to smacking the shit out of someone for doing dumb shit, trans-whatever the fuck would pretty much be a non-issue. I mean I'm all for excepting people as they are, but I don't like being forced to except something that I've yet to come to terms with. Especially when it comes to people basically lying about who and what they are (gender, race, etc). I mean really if I was dating a chick and all the sudden was informed she had a dick, my reaction ain't gonna be "oh that's okay that you lied to me and I except it because liberal America says I have too". My reaction is going put my butt in jail, and I imagine it would for most dudes.

How about people lying about being a particular race to government mandated perks, for employment, promotions and the like?

Do we go for full equality and do away with perks? It wouldn't matter then.

I'm still not okay with dudes claiming to be girls using the same bathrooms as my wife and daughters.

I think people should just be honest with themselves and everyone else.
 
I think if society went back to smacking the shit out of someone for doing dumb shit, trans-whatever the fuck would pretty much be a non-issue. I mean I'm all for excepting people as they are, but I don't like being forced to except something that I've yet to come to terms with. Especially when it comes to people basically lying about who and what they are (gender, race, etc). I mean really if I was dating a chick and all the sudden was informed she had a dick, my reaction ain't gonna be "oh that's okay that you lied to me and I except it because liberal America says I have too". My reaction is going put my butt in jail, and I imagine it would for most dudes.

How about people lying about being a particular race to government mandated perks, for employment, promotions and the like?

Do we go for full equality and do away with perks? It wouldn't matter then.

I'm still not okay with dudes claiming to be girls using the same bathrooms as my wife and daughters.

I think people should just be honest with themselves and everyone else.

Well I'm bigger and stronger than you and I think you need to get slapped for being a bitch...

Where does that line stop?

Also the word you are looking for is "accept".
 
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I think if society went back to smacking the shit out of someone for doing dumb shit, trans-whatever the fuck would pretty much be a non-issue. I mean I'm all for excepting people as they are, but I don't like being forced to except something that I've yet to come to terms with. Especially when it comes to people basically lying about who and what they are (gender, race, etc). I mean really if I was dating a chick and all the sudden was informed she had a dick, my reaction ain't gonna be "oh that's okay that you lied to me and I except it because liberal America says I have too". My reaction is going put my butt in jail, and I imagine it would for most dudes.

How about people lying about being a particular race to government mandated perks, for employment, promotions and the like?

Do we go for full equality and do away with perks? It wouldn't matter then.

I'm still not okay with dudes claiming to be girls using the same bathrooms as my wife and daughters.

I think people should just be honest with themselves and everyone else.
Trans people aren't lying they are delusional, and beating them seems immoral, that being said it is perfectly reasonable to expect people with immoral motivations to take advantage of policies meant to protect transgender people. The main problem I see with the "perks" is that the theory behind them is that since minorities face discrimination that institutions should discriminate in their favor, but discrimination manifesting itself in one way is not a good way of fixing another type of discrimination so I don't think they should exist. As far as bathroom policy the Idea that everyone should be forced to allow something they are not comfortable with to make the tiny minority of Transgender people feel better is insane.
 
I think transgender is acceptable and can get behind that. Transspecies or transracial or whatever? Get the fuck out of here.
 
Why? Aren't they all delusional by definition? Why should we be accepting of one mental illness and not others?

Why should I accept your definition? Do you have the backing of the DSM? You are not a psychiatrist correct? We can only accept and take seriously what the professionals say is or is not a mental illness.
 
Why? Aren't they all delusional by definition? Why should we be accepting of one mental illness and not others?

I'm going to be blunt: I learned my lesson from the patriotism discussion. I don't know if you're argumentative or whatever, but our discussions are little more than an "are not/are too" back and forth. I'll only say I think your views on transgender people are wrong. You're entitled to that position and believe in it, so it appears debating you on almost any issue is a non-starter.
 
You know what. Trans or not, I don't give a fuck. Act like a human, I am happy. Don't do retarded shit and be a human. Do I agree with it. I am not sure. Do I think it should not be shoved down out throats? Yes. With that said, I don't care if you are. Be a human. Be a person with honor and I am happy. Bigger things to worry about.....

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Why should I accept your definition?
You don't have to:

an act or instance of deluding.
2.
the state of being deluded.
3.
a false belief or opinion
the definition of delusion

Do you have the backing of the DSM?
Yes, Gender Identity Disorder was indeed removed from the DSM (although gender dysphoria remains) But this was not a decision made based off research, but rather a fear of backlash from the transgender community, and wanting to spare their feelings. To date, there has not been a single solid study showing transgender suicide rates can be comparable to those of the general public under favorable conditions. Some studies have made those claims, but so far every one of them has been plagued with flaws:Study: Transgenderism Not A Mental Illness

Why Gender Dysphoria Should No Longer Be Considered a Medical Disorder
"Yet critics of the “GID” category respond that, in fact, the DSM inclusion of what amounts to their identities results in more harm than good. They likenthe inclusion of “GID” to the DSM’s former inclusion of homosexuality, saying that it medicalizes them and treats them as diseased rather than just different."

These are not scientific arguments based on research, And the likening this to homosexuals once being on the DSM neglects the fact that that was MANY years ago and gays don't have a suicide rate of 40%.

You are not a psychiatrist correct? We can only accept and take seriously what the professionals say is or is not a mental illness.

Johns Hopkins Psychiatrist: Transgender is ‘Mental Disorder;' Sex Change ‘Biologically Impossible’

Well, there is an example of one of the most respected psychologists alive, who studies specifically transgenderism and has for most of his career saying exactly that.
 
Why? Aren't they all delusional by definition? Why should we be accepting of one mental illness and not others?

Do some research on biology, and how sex is determined at an embryonic stage.
There is far greater/some "justification" for transgender, and none for transspecies.

You also seem like someone looking to argue with people for whatever reason you see fit, that is not going to go down well on this site. bear that in mind. Understand?
 
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