No one has.
But hey if we're talking Russia, hats, and American politicians...
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics...-hat-donald-trump-yale-2018-class-day-sot.cnn
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No one has.
But hey if we're talking Russia, hats, and American politicians...
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics...-hat-donald-trump-yale-2018-class-day-sot.cnn
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Hot take. If we can kill/cripple Russia by helping the Ukrainians gain their freedom, maybe we can get Europe off the NATO welfare train. With the exception of a few allies, Europe has kinda fucked the American tax payer. With Russia gone we can finally have a smaller footprint there.
This way Europe can go back to funding and housing hordes of hostile Islamic migrants.
This way Europe can go back to funding and housing hordes of hostile Islamic migrants.
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Y’all don’t hang out in Instagram comment sections?
I don’t like commies. The Chinese are commies. Idk wtf the Russians are now but I don’t like Russians either. And I don’t like Americans who admire commies, or who are stupid enough to think there’s any merit in that failed ideology.
No, I don't.
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I would be happy to see examples, especially ones involving Tucker Carlson.
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One example doesn't make an entire class.
Hunter took Russian money, yet gets a pass.
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Trump himself has praised Putin on multiple occasions. He is literally the personification of the MAGA cult. It isn’t hard to find him being an apologist for the invasion.
Negotiation tactic perhaps?
Biden vilified the King of Saudi Arabia, how'd that work out for him (and us)?
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Putin can charm the panties off anyone. Wasn't it Bush Jr who said something about he looked in the man's eyes and saw his soul? Putin has captivated the world.
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Biden himself took money from foreign governments and used his position while VP to cover his son's ass...and he's somehow president. So far nothing Trump has done remotely touches on what Biden has done and we're playing Whataboutery.
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Claim Trump loves or apologizes for Russia if you want to accept that narrative, but we weren't spending so much of our treasure in Ukraine and the border was in much better shape when he was president.
There were so many things that were better when he were president.
I have no idea whether or not the Ukraine invasion would have happened if he were president, I just know that it didn't.
And in other news, apparently the Ukrainian military just suffered another major setback.
Ukraine makes major troop withdrawal in key win for Putin and Russia
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Seems if Trump was so pro-Russia, it would've been more likely to happen while he was president.
This post isn't for or against Russia's invasion because I'm playing Devils Advocate, but let's say the Ukraine falls in 2022. What's next? What's the West do? Russia? Hunter Biden? Whateverthefuck? Putin tours Kiev like a failed Austrian painter toured the Eiffel Tower. What happens next?
Well, that's the magic $64 million-dollar question, isn't it? Putin clearly could give two fucks about casualties, material losses or the West's sanctions; his only concern is victory. The UN is as toothless as the League of Nations ever was, so utterly worthless as to beg pity. NATO political leadership is--oh, so slowly--pulling its collective head out of its ass, but it's getting really, really late in the game here. And, even more critically, the US populace is becoming more and more isolationist. We're allowing our domestic issues--which are really, really bad--to cloud out why it's critical we stay engaged on the international stage. It's almost as it it's the 1930s again, and we're watching the Spanish Civil War.
Putin will, of course, reconstitute his military. I think what comes out of that reconstitution will be a solid threat, more so than anything NATO has had to face since 1985. Concurrently, he'll spend a little time shoring up relations with the friendlier former Soviet states, his powerbase in Belarus, and generally tidying up the place. The sanctions, over the next few years, will gradually taper off, because "global trade keeps the peace!" Encouraged by his victories, he'll make a lot of noise about the Baltic States, Poland, Hungary and Romania.
The only real outlier I see here is NATO. A solid, credible response to Russia would be critical to blunting Putin's plan. Since that response won't be coming from the US (because we're gonna be busy navel gazing election 2024), I'd say a follow-up question would be, "What's NATO going to do?"
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I think the US has to honor it's official agreements with countries.....if not, why would anyone ever trust us.
People forget the US, UK and Russia agreed to gurantee Ukraine security if they gave up their nukes (Budapest Memoradum, 1994). Sure, Russia doesn't give a shit, but hell...the West needs to keep their promise.
Just my two cents...
People forget the US, UK and Russia agreed to gurantee Ukraine security if they gave up their nukes (Budapest Memoradum, 1994). Sure, Russia doesn't give a shit, but hell...the West needs to keep their promise.
Just my two cents...
