Ukraine - Russia Conflict
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Hmmm
1) Russia does not have a manpower problem.
2) This isn't a world war.
3) @Gunz didn't kill anyone in Vietnam.
None of the above statements are true.
Didn't we just send another 400 milly to the Ukraine? God damn I'm glad our economy and national debt are in such great shape.
ThunderHorse
Verified Military
Are they North Korean or troops from the Eastern Military District? Most people think of Russians only as white Europeans, but they have a very diverse population with tons of Asian ethnic groups. This has not really been a national effort as they started and then stopped mobilization of the Eastern Districts and went towards conscription.
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Apparently, 12,000 NK troops in Kursk region.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...roops-joining-russias-war-ukraine-2024-10-21/
https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...roops-joining-russias-war-ukraine-2024-10-21/
Russian General Alleged to Have Organized Torture Camp Killed in Ukraine – Reports - The Moscow Times
Another General bites the dust.
Another General bites the dust.
I’m torn on Trumps opinion towards Ukraine. On the one hand, I believe that Ukraine has been a hotbed for corruption. On the other hand, fuck Russia.
How do we both keep killing Russians and North Koreans without the loss of a single US service members life?
How do we both keep killing Russians and North Koreans without the loss of a single US service members life?
Ukraine can be an excellent return on investment for projecting for/training for LSCO, IF our military leaders are willing to see it as such.
I remember our BN CO and CSM coming out to visit our element and just chatted with us for a few hours about how the mission was going. He was particularly pissed because he had a meeting with some higher level leadership and offered to brief them on what our unit+our UKR partners had been developing for counter UAS. From what he said, they were uninterested.
IIRC, he had said this conversation occurred tight around the Tower 22 attack; I forget he said it was prior or post, but his meeting with us was a few weeks after.
ThunderHorse
Verified Military
The Eurowussies are now all cringing talking about how we're unreliable and stuff and how they now all of a sudden need to invest in their own defense. I mean, maybe they could have not cut their Armies in half over the last 20 years or something...
I've been mulling over what we would actually lose if we just dissolved NATO.
Random thoughts.
Ukr is still corrupt.
NATO, at our insistence, throttled the Ukr military, did we doom the Ukr by doing so?
Trump's ceasefire plan gets criticized by many, but look two or three steps out.
Bleeding Russia is great, but Putin has more bodies to lose than Zelinsky does. The Ukr hasn't gone to a full mobilization, (which I find to be mind boggling).
Eventually Ukr loses result in defeat, or genocide. Either way, Putin wins.
A ceasefire let's the Ukraine rebuild, and get to live to fight another day.
Ukr is still corrupt.
NATO, at our insistence, throttled the Ukr military, did we doom the Ukr by doing so?
Trump's ceasefire plan gets criticized by many, but look two or three steps out.
Bleeding Russia is great, but Putin has more bodies to lose than Zelinsky does. The Ukr hasn't gone to a full mobilization, (which I find to be mind boggling).
Eventually Ukr loses result in defeat, or genocide. Either way, Putin wins.
A ceasefire let's the Ukraine rebuild, and get to live to fight another day.
When you save somebody's ass once, they are grateful. If you save their ass twice, they get used to it. If you linger around after the second time, maintaining your protection, they start to resent their dependence on you...because you remind them of their weaknesses.
The Euros need to man the fuck up.
Let's not forget that European countries are quasi-Socialist. Look at the tax numbers below and how they can't maintain their own militaries. About a decade-ish ago Germany had half of its navy unable to sortie. Broken. Busted. Can't go anywhere. Their Air Force wasn't much better. Europe is taxing the hell out of its people and spending little on defense. I wonder what their governments are doing with the money...
ThunderHorse
Verified Military
NEVER GIVE UP YOUR NUKES!
Kraut783
SOF Support
Yes, never trust treaties governments sign, especially the US...we never seem to honor them.
I do think Putin will use Trump to save face and get out of the Ukraine...Putin needs a exit ramp.
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You guys are signing treaties?
Sincerely,
The Montagnards
That was an option? Where's our paper?
One team, one fight,
The Kurds
