Your 2024 Presidential Election Thread

[TLDR20]

Interesting, shooter voted in NC primary this year. Is he now a NC resident?
We knew quickly where the 1st shooters AR came from.
Where did the AK come from?

He is from NC as far as I have heard. Long criminal history in Greensboro.

 

[Muppet]

USSS being compromised.....

How do we know they are not brother? I'm not a cop, I'm not SS but how do these things happen?

 

[Devildoc]

Interesting, shooter voted in NC primary this year. Is he now a N

He is from NC as far as I have heard. Long criminal history in Greensboro.

I think this all a conspiracy against this fine gentleman as NC law prohibits gun ownership with the crimes for which he has been found guilty.

 

[Gunz]

USSS being compromised.....

How do we know they are not brother? I'm not a cop, I'm not SS but how do these things happen?

Sometimes the prevailing political attitude at the very top of the Administration--in this case, Trump hate--has a way of filtering down into various departments and influencing certain behaviors of those in the decision-making tier who want to please their boss and keep their job.

The Secret Service may not be compromised among the rank and file who bravely soldier on. But I've seen top commanders in the military bend with the prevailing breezes, and the Secret Service--at least at the top--is just another government agency, like the military, the ATF, the FBI, and not immune to pressure, however subtle.

 

[Cookie_]

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This meme wraps up the shooter as far as I've seen from the videos of him.

He had the world's biggest hard-on for Ukraine (See this 2022 video) and thought "all five billion people in the world should be here fighting". He apparently kept trying to recruit Afghans to fight in Ukraine.

He voted for Trump in 2016 but then wrote in 2023 he should be assassinated for backing out of the Iran deal.

He's posted support for Tulsi, Biden, Harris, Haley, and Ramaswamy.

Guys, I think this dude might not have had any established views and was just coocoo for Coco-puffs.

 

[The Quartermaster]

Those DEI hires certainly aren't proving them not to be compromised.

 

[DA SWO]

Serial number was partially scratched off. Nice move.

Easy fix to restore.
Plus it adds another Federal Charge.

 

[Gunz]

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This meme wraps up the shooter as far as I've seen from the videos of him.

He had the world's biggest hard-on for Ukraine (See this 2022 video) and thought "all five billion people in the world should be here fighting". He apparently kept trying to recruit Afghans to fight in Ukraine.

He voted for Trump in 2016 but then wrote in 2023 he should be assassinated for backing out of the Iran deal.

He's posted support for Tulsi, Biden, Harris, Haley, and Ramaswamy.

Guys, I think this dude might not have had any established views and was just coocoo for Coco-puffs.

He was a big Bernie Sanders fan. Didn't like Biden, but loved Bernie.

 

[BlackSmokeRisinG]

USSS being compromised.....

I mean..not totally out of the realm of possibility...

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/08/white-house-secret-service-personnel-duped-by-fake-dhs-agents.html

The bigger story is why hasn't Trump received MUCH MORE SS protection since..you know...the first time somebody tried to shoot him.

 

[The Quartermaster]

Didn't the DoD offer to help the USSS?

 

[ThunderHorse]

So, I'm looking for an actual report on the google. But according to Fox, and the report from the Committee. The USSS has not been providing the same level of security as they do to the current president.

Maybe it's too many movies. BUT I thought the moment someone becomes the nominee they get the same level of protection? And if the USSS needs to augment the detail there are numerous Federal Law Enforcement Agencies that can supply officers and agents for this detail. But the one I think of for the best fit might be the Marshalls?

WTH is going on.

 

[Muppet]

Don't know how accurate this is but I don't doubt it.

 

[Cookie_]

But the one I think of for the best fit might be the Marshalls?

Diplomatic Security Service Agents have the closest mission set, as they do security for non-head of state dignitaries.
Wonder if it's a bit of "turf war" that's prevented that from happening. If Fed LEOs love anything it's pissing contests over who gets to do what mission.

 

[BlackSmokeRisinG]

Call in the WPS guys

 

[Kraut783]

So, I'm looking for an actual report on the google. But according to Fox, and the report from the Committee. The USSS has not been providing the same level of security as they do to the current president.

Maybe it's too many movies. BUT I thought the moment someone becomes the nominee they get the same level of protection? And if the USSS needs to augment the detail there are numerous Federal Law Enforcement Agencies that can supply officers and agents for this detail. But the one I think of for the best fit might be the Marshalls?

WTH is going on.

Don't think Trump was officially the nominee until the Republican convention, and the delegates officially name him.

But, he has had a detail since being president. His detail asked for more support, but was denied....hence the USSS firing of director and others.

Since the USSS is under the DHS umbrella, they get supplemented with HSI SA's, and other gun carrying LEO's that fall under DHS. But, the election period is a huge manpower suck and is one of the reasons USSS SA's have retired, or moved to other agencies....

As far as the DSS, they are far too small and the bulk of their agents are OCONUS, as they are a foreign service. The do have a PSD team, and tactical PSD team that travels with the head of the State department. They have lead on the UN General Assembly that happens every year, and they pull from a lot of agencies for assistance, a HSI friend of mine has had to go for the past five years.....and do Texas border TDY's and either the DNC or RNC every election year, he feels like he is pulled in too many directions.

Maybe having the USSS be purely a protective service might be a good idea....

Unfortunately, violence toward elected officials seems to be the way crazies go now.....just think how hard it is to have a protective bubble in open areas you don't fully control, and your principle has to get out and meet and greet.....I would hate that job.

 

[ThunderHorse]

Don't think Trump was officially the nominee until the Republican convention, and the delegates officially name him.

But, he has had a detail since being president. His detail asked for more support, but was denied....hence the USSS firing of director and others.

Since the USSS is under the DHS umbrella, they get supplemented with HSI SA's, and other gun carrying LEO's that fall under DHS. But, the election period is a huge manpower suck and is one of the reasons USSS SA's have retired, or moved to other agencies....

As far as the DSS, they are far too small and the bulk of their agents are OCONUS, as they are a foreign service. The do have a PSD team, and tactical PSD team that travels with the head of the State department. They have lead on the UN General Assembly that happens every year, and they pull from a lot of agencies for assistance, a HSI friend of mine has had to go for the past five years.....and do Texas border TDY's and either the DNC or RNC every election year, he feels like he is pulled in too many directions.

Maybe having the USSS be purely a protective service might be a good idea....

Unfortunately, violence toward elected officials seems to be the way crazies go now.....just think how hard it is to have a protective bubble in open areas you don't fully control, and your principle has to get out and meet and greet.....I would hate that job.

I would say even a chipmunk could have figured out that this needed to be sorted well before the first assassination attempt.

 

[amlove21]

If assassination attempts were primary votes, Donald Trump would be up 2-0 on Kamala.

 

[ThunderHorse]

If assassination attempts were primary votes, Donald Trump would be up 2-0 on Kamala.

"And now time for the greatest words in sports: Game Seven"

 

[Kraut783]

I would say even a chipmunk could have figured out that this needed to be sorted well before the first assassination attempt.

Oh, absolutely

 

[Devildoc]

Don't think Trump was officially the nominee until the Republican convention, and the delegates officially name him.

But, he has had a detail since being president. His detail asked for more support, but was denied....hence the USSS firing of director and others.

Since the USSS is under the DHS umbrella, they get supplemented with HSI SA's, and other gun carrying LEO's that fall under DHS. But, the election period is a huge manpower suck and is one of the reasons USSS SA's have retired, or moved to other agencies....

As far as the DSS, they are far too small and the bulk of their agents are OCONUS, as they are a foreign service. The do have a PSD team, and tactical PSD team that travels with the head of the State department. They have lead on the UN General Assembly that happens every year, and they pull from a lot of agencies for assistance, a HSI friend of mine has had to go for the past five years.....and do Texas border TDY's and either the DNC or RNC every election year, he feels like he is pulled in too many directions.

Maybe having the USSS be purely a protective service might be a good idea....

Unfortunately, violence toward elected officials seems to be the way crazies go now.....just think how hard it is to have a protective bubble in open areas you don't fully control, and your principle has to get out and meet and greet.....I would hate that job.

Republican nominee or not, as a former POTUS he gets coverage.

Regardless, PSD can be framed out if done right. It has been for decades.