Handgun for home defense

Honestly youll have to get to a range and find out what works for you as far as handguns. Ive owned (before I got rid of all my firearms) a Gen 4 Glock 23 and Ive found its rather peppy and doesnt like to stay in my hand (Even moreso than the 21, mainly because its smaller). That doesnt really bode well for rapid fire. Personally I prefer Sig, hypothetically if I owned firearms my family would own like 8 of these. Sigs are really comfortable in the hand, the controls are easy to reach, all the models Ive seen have glow in the dark sights, they come in every caliber you could want(Including the new 227 in .45), and its an extremely reliable and accurate handgun. The only complaint people have is that they dont have an external safety. Ive used Glocks, 1911s, Springield XDs, Berettas, S&W M&Ps, Taurus, you name it. And the Sigs are by far the best Ive come across.

As for your penetration problem, I would agree with the earlier post about Speer Gold Dot JHP. Fantastic rounds. And I wouldnt really use a shotgun unless youre either point blank, or you feel like shredding everything around and behind the target.

Hypothetically....
 
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Slider496 said:
Honestly youll have to get to a range and find out what works for you as far as handguns. Ive owned (before I got rid of all my firearms) a Gen 4 Glock 23 and Ive found its rather peppy and doesnt like to stay in my hand (Even moreso than the 21, mainly because its smaller). That doesnt really bode well for rapid fire. Personally I prefer Sig, hypothetically if I owned firearms my family would own like 8 of these. Sigs are really comfortable in the hand, the controls are easy to reach, all the models Ive seen have glow in the dark sights, they come in every caliber you could want(Including the new 227 in .45), and its an extremely reliable and accurate handgun. The only complaint people have is that they dont have an external safety. Ive used Glocks, 1911s, Springield XDs, Berettas, S&W M&Ps, Taurus, you name it. And the Sigs are by far the best Ive come across.

As for your penetration problem, I would agree with the earlier post about Speer Gold Dot JHP. Fantastic rounds. And I wouldnt really use a shotgun unless youre either point blank, or you feel like shredding everything around and behind the target.

Hypothetically....
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What's with the hypothetical business?

You're wrong about the shotgun, particularly with modern loads like Federal Tactical buckshot. If I have time I'll post targets shot with that load through an 870 SBS at various distances.
 
policemedic said:
What's with the hypothetical business?

You're wrong about the shotgun, particularly with modern loads like Federal Tactical buckshot. If I have time I'll post targets shot with that load through an 870 SBS at various distances.
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If you have time go for it, Im interested to see. As for the hypothetical stuff, its a gun control joke.
 
I get all bent up when I read the magical area weapon theoretical opinions of the shotgun.

12g 00 Buck spreads at about 1 inch per a yard (per 3 feet) the longest straight shot in my house is 28.5 feet (roughly 9.5 yards) meaning that inside my house at the longest possible shot I could possibly make, my shot group spread is only going to be a Max of about 10 inches. The average engagement length in my house is about 5-6 yards, meaning my average shot that would be taken would result in a 5-6 inch shot group.

When you put it into the theroy of a combat effective pistol shot group under stress (6 inches), the spread of a 00 Buck shot, at the average engagement area, would be no different than a pistol, in theory anyway.

@Slider496, @policemedic is spot on with the "flitecontrol" tactical buck shot produced by Federal. The shot pattern spread is less then a third of common buck shot at distance. If you take the time to youtube Federal flitecontrol 00 Buck range test, you will see more than a few videos showing the reduced spread of shot at distances past 25 yards.
 
JAB said:
I get all bent up when I read the magical area weapon theoretical opinions of the shotgun.

12g 00 Buck spreads at about 1 inch per a yard (per 3 feet) the longest straight shot in my house is 28.5 feet (roughly 9.5 yards) meaning that inside my house at the longest possible shot I could possibly make, my shot group spread is only going to be a Max of about 10 inches. The average engagement length in my house is about 5-6 yards, meaning my average shot that would be taken would result in a 5-6 inch shot group.

When you put it into the theroy of a combat effective pistol shot group under stress (6 inches), the spread of a 00 Buck shot, at the average engagement area, would be no different than a pistol, in theory anyway.

@Slider496, @policemedic is spot on with the "flitecontrol" tactical buck shot produced by Federal. The shot pattern spread is less then a third of common buck shot at distance. If you take the time to youtube Federal flitecontrol 00 Buck range test, you will see more than a few videos showing the reduced spread of shot at distances past 25 yards.
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Good to know, My experience is limited to 12ga 00 Buck from an M1014 at a max of 25 meters. Generally theres not much left of the target or anything around it. But Ill definitely look around for those rounds. Thanks for the tip!
 
Get a high quality gun and high quality training. I like Glock's and would suggest a G19 or G17 for a new shooter. You might like something else, that's cool. Everyone will have their opinions. Shotguns and AR's are awesome too. Again buy high quality and get some good training. What's your background in shooting? Try shooting some different guns to see what works best for you. If I were starting out again I would look at the S&W M&P's. The G23 is a very snappy gun. It was my first duty weapon in '92. I carry a G22 at work and a M&P 9mm Shield as a back up and off duty. It works for me and my 11 year old son likes to soot the 9mm but the .40 pounds him. That's why I went with the 9mm Shield and not the .40.

Don't listen to anyone who tells you that the "sound of a 12GA" being cycled is all you need. If someone tells you that they're a fool.
 
I have a 3.8 XDm that works damn well for myself, I was also looking into getting the Springfield XDs or even a Rock Island 1911. So many guns to choose from.
 
RustyShackleford said:
You and HH6 just send them to me for safe keeping!:D I'll make sure they get to the mill for proper disposal!
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You know... I was never overly concerned with "The Man" coming after my shit, because I never had much respect for "The Man" in the first place having been in the military and seeing how most LE rolls... then hearing you bitching about workin "as The Man" means I really have less and less to worry about.
 
Ranger Psych said:
You know... I was never overly concerned with "The Man" coming after my shit, because I never had much respect for "The Man" in the first place having been in the military and seeing how most LE rolls... then hearing you bitching about workin "as The Man" means I really have less and less to worry about.
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Hey, that's what I tell guys...nothing to worry about. Nothing to worry about at all!
 
I just traded all my guns for magical unicorns and a rainbow gun!!! I will also be wearing the below attached photo for anyone who wishes to break in!!! I'll twerk you to death!
 

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