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Stickin' wit my thutty-eight, aight?
http://www.brassfetcher.com/Buffalo Bore 158gr (non +P) SWC-HC.html
Me too. That will be the daily carry with the Buffalo 158's.
Stickin' wit my thutty-eight, aight?
http://www.brassfetcher.com/Buffalo Bore 158gr (non +P) SWC-HC.html
The CZ I have is in .40 S&W and I'm pretty partial to the holes it leaves. In the past I've had a Glock 17 and Sig 226 in 9mm too.
The CZ is a nice piece...actually it's a great piece, but it's definitely laid out for a rightly. I'm thinking about getting a new pistol and have been thinking of going either 10mm or .45.
I know there are a lot of 1911 fan boys out there but I was hoping for some objective opinion about what caliber you're most into.
Thoughts?
Hollis - I know the guys at RBCD and I've seen some presentations they've done on the ammo. It does some amazing damage to flesh and tissue. It doesn't perform well in ballistic gel according to Gary Roberts but then I've never tried to kill a block gelatin.
There's a there a thread with some autopsy photos (of hogs) on PS.com.
Plus I think you'll appreciate the fact they're Marines. :)
Especially after reading a FBI report on how INeffective the 40S&W with speer gold dots are.
Wow, I didn't know that about the .40S&W!
Good to know!
Wow, I didn't know that about the .40S&W!
Good to know!
Especially after reading a FBI report on how INeffective the 40S&W with speer gold dots are.
"The results of this FBI analysis really reinforces the importance of shot
placement if you are ever forced to use your gun against an attacker. Police
fired a total of 107 rounds at the single suspect and it took an M4 rifle to
finally incapacitate him. The suspect was able to fire 26 rounds from his
.45 caliber handgun and even reloaded from a box of loose rounds.
3 officers were involved in a shooting this week. An ambush was set up for
the officers prior to their arrival, they took fire while still in their
cruisers. One officer was hit in the forearm, another received wounds to his
forehead from a ricochet, another was injured (NFI). The suspect was armed
with a .45 handgun. The officers were armed with Glock 22's (.40S&W) and
SPEER 180 gr. Gold Dot Hollow Points.
Officers fired on the subject and hit him in the left arm, completely
shattering the bone. He was also hit five times in the chest and abdomen.
All rounds penetrated less than 1 (one inch) (B. All of the rounds expanded
fully but did not cause incapacitation due to the lack of penetration.
According to the Medical Examiner, none of the rounds caused any life
threatening injuries. The subject also received one round into the front of
his throat, it penetrated less than 1in (B as well. The Medical Examiner
stated that the recovered rounds were in pristine condition (still had
rifling marks on them)
Kimber Master Raptor II. I'll have to look those guys up though as it's definitely turned me on to 1911's. Hands down the tightest gun I've ever handled.
Before everyone goes knocking off the .40.............
They didn't need a knee jerk reaction and go replace all their weapons, but unfortunately, it's probably already a done deal.
For me? .40 S&W. Wouldn't trade my 22C for anything else.
This department (Above) used a heavier round which instead of increasing stopping power with a .40 round, actually reduced it. The above review just re-confirms it. Problem was not with the .40, nor was it the SPEER ammunition itself, it was the type of round (180 gr) selected for departmental use, probably selected by someone on the city council..
I use a 135 gr JHP in Winchester or Corbon. Federal in a pinch. I wouldn't go any higher than a 155 JHP. Couple it with a double stack and no one will ever have to say on my behalf "If only he had more"
In .32 for my NAA b/u, Hornaday Proprietary .32 NAA60 gr. 199 ft lbs @1222 fps. Sanow also gave it a thumbs up. Not bad for a small intimidater.
One other knock down plus factor is SHOT PLACEMENT as mentioned above. :2c:
Before everyone goes knocking off the .40.............
They didn't need a knee jerk reaction and go replace all their weapons, but unfortunately, it's probably already a done deal.
For me? .40 S&W. Wouldn't trade my 22C for anything else.
This department (Above) used a heavier round which instead of increasing stopping power with a .40 round, actually reduced it. The above review just re-confirms it. Problem was not with the .40, nor was it the SPEER ammunition itself, it was the type of round (180 gr) selected for departmental use, probably selected by someone on the city council..
I use a 135 gr JHP in Winchester or Corbon. Federal in a pinch. I wouldn't go any higher than a 155 JHP. Couple it with a double stack and no one will ever have to say on my behalf "If only he had more"
In .32 for my NAA b/u, Hornaday Proprietary .32 NAA60 gr. 199 ft lbs @1222 fps. Sanow also gave it a thumbs up. Not bad for a small intimidater.
One other knock down plus factor is SHOT PLACEMENT as mentioned above. :2c:
I went down and got a .40 Smitty M&P compact...today.
Sweet! Dead on @ 7 yards.
Thanks for convincing me. You too, 82nd.
All I could get in JHP were 155 gr. Federals, but it beats roundnose.
I like it so much, I made it my profile picture.
Now my snub goes in my left pocket.:cool: