Wagner's leader says his mercenaries will no longer take prisoners
Not exactly unprecedented if the reporting has any legitimate origins.
Not exactly unprecedented if the reporting has any legitimate origins.
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Here’s another version
Wagner Boss Says Forces Won't Take Any More Prisoners in Ukraine - The Moscow Times
Wagner Group’s ROE is historically open to interpretation. If it exists at all. One thing is certain. Putin doesn’t have JAG lawyers dissecting every contact.
Wagner Boss Says Forces Won't Take Any More Prisoners in Ukraine - The Moscow Times
Wagner Group’s ROE is historically open to interpretation. If it exists at all. One thing is certain. Putin doesn’t have JAG lawyers dissecting every contact.
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That gives a lot of incentive to not surrender, and how many Ukrainians just adopted a take no prisoners approach.
Winners are rarely tried for war crimes. Victory absolves an army of a multitude of sins.
The Ukrainians also have nothing left to lose, their backs being against the wall and everything.
Whether Zelensky ordered it or not, I have a feeling he's a dead man now.
Kremlin drone: Zelensky denies Ukraine attacked Putin or Moscow
Kremlin drone: Zelensky denies Ukraine attacked Putin or Moscow
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If they haven't been able to get Zelensky so far, this isn't really going to change things. The misinformation campaign is so strong and complex on both sides that it's difficult to know what actually happened, but I doubt it was directly Ukrainian, nor was it likely a real threat to the Kremlin.
What horseshit. It looks like somebody fired off a fairly small pyrotechnic in the air above the dome. Probably the two figures who are seen on the dome. Because why would anybody be on the dome at night?
And there’s no apparent damage.
A feeble attempt at a False Flag. (See Reichstag fire.)
And there’s no apparent damage.
A feeble attempt at a False Flag. (See Reichstag fire.)
He’s been leaning far out of his own hospital window for a while now. Not the kind of publicity you want from your chief hired gun. It again points to the continual snafu of Russian logistics.
Talk about airing your dirty laundry in public.
Talk about airing your dirty laundry in public.
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Just a thought - but pulling Wagner from the battlefield to refit and "lick their wounds" - gives Russia a seamless opportunity to escalate under the blanket of a very public falling out.
Gotta send more Russian troops to the front to cover the void left by those dirt nasty contractors...
...maybe an extra division should cover it
...just in time for the spring/summer offensives to start
US contractors have public shouting matches with U.S. bean counters ALL the time. At best, they went to court to change the name of their company so they could rebid the contract for more money.
Public displays of outrage between governments and government contractors can be concerning - but they are very often just extensions of the kabuki theater that goes on inside the government chambers.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Maybe that Yahtzee Pirogi guy will fall out of a window, maybe some of his Wagner Grouop mercenaries will show up in Kyiv in a few weeks from now after being caught conducting nefarious activities. Blood Honor Motherland Courage - and all that jazz.
...time for some popcorn
Gotta send more Russian troops to the front to cover the void left by those dirt nasty contractors...
...maybe an extra division should cover it
...just in time for the spring/summer offensives to start
US contractors have public shouting matches with U.S. bean counters ALL the time. At best, they went to court to change the name of their company so they could rebid the contract for more money.
Public displays of outrage between governments and government contractors can be concerning - but they are very often just extensions of the kabuki theater that goes on inside the government chambers.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Maybe that Yahtzee Pirogi guy will fall out of a window, maybe some of his Wagner Grouop mercenaries will show up in Kyiv in a few weeks from now after being caught conducting nefarious activities. Blood Honor Motherland Courage - and all that jazz.
...time for some popcorn
If we can give Russia any credit in this whole thing their men still act like men. I wonder how our Navy's drag queen would act if they/their/them's boat was left drifting in the ocean with no fuel or rounds during a battle?
Russian military screaming on the radio for more ammo and air support goes back to Chechnya. Now it's on Twitter and Insta.
Wonder if Elon's algorithms put the video on blast? Wonder if the old Twitter regime would have suppressed it due to sensitivities and or slapped a fact check warning on it?
Russian military screaming on the radio for more ammo and air support goes back to Chechnya. Now it's on Twitter and Insta.
Wonder if Elon's algorithms put the video on blast? Wonder if the old Twitter regime would have suppressed it due to sensitivities and or slapped a fact check warning on it?
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Couldn't happen soon enough. Fuck that guy.
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It's a power play. He wouldn't do it if he didn't feel like he held some cards.
You may be right. Maybe. Here’s a very insightful assessment of the status of his position with respect to Putin and the military. He may think he holds more cards than he does.
https://carnegieendowment.org/politika/89008
"The businessman’s attacks on officials, parliamentary deputies, and political parties have not won him any favor within the elite, which considers Prigozhin’s autonomy, ambition, and rhetoric nothing short of a threat to the state. He may have carte blanche from Putin within his area of responsibility (Wagner’s activities, troll factories, certain minor media) but outside of it, he is politically helpless."
https://carnegieendowment.org/politika/89008
"The businessman’s attacks on officials, parliamentary deputies, and political parties have not won him any favor within the elite, which considers Prigozhin’s autonomy, ambition, and rhetoric nothing short of a threat to the state. He may have carte blanche from Putin within his area of responsibility (Wagner’s activities, troll factories, certain minor media) but outside of it, he is politically helpless."
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Wagner chief offered to give Russian troop locations to Ukraine, leak says
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...59Vy_Vpr6PXNo_5YOxAjffpTKwjwVLnJTvn2BMr742rcQ
Hard to tell what's true and what isn't. But whether this is true or not, some kind of defenestration may be in Prigozhin's future...
I love the word. Kudos for Pooty-Poo for bringing back into style.
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Even though he's denying it now, I'd say this was a big F-U to Putin. Just letting it leak sends a message.Wagner chief offered to give Russian troop locations to Ukraine, leak says
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...59Vy_Vpr6PXNo_5YOxAjffpTKwjwVLnJTvn2BMr742rcQ
Hard to tell what's true and what isn't. But whether this is true or not, some kind of defenestration may be in Prigozhin's future...
