US Army SOF Photos

[TLDR20]

"As far as vision goes, I didn't feel that the Chops restricted my peripheral vision or field of view negatively. Having the opening at the front also contributes to a more 'open' feeling while still allowing the unobstructed use of a hydration tube, normal speech and eating."
http://www.militarymorons.com/gear/crye5.html

Did you wear the helmet?

 

[lowellh]

Did you wear the helmet?

I have worn it with the chops at SHOT Show and felt it didn't really make any difference without them in terms of vision. However just thought to throw in a second opinion (I put the link in below)...

 

[Crusader74]

I have worn it with the chops at SHOT Show and felt it didn't really make any difference without them in terms of vision. However just thought to throw in a second opinion (I put the link in below)...

I think there is a slight difference in wearing a helmet in a nice comfy conference center and in the field. Personally speaking I would prefer without.

 

[lowellh]

Sure, that makes sense too.

 

[Ravage]

U.S. Special Forces soldiers, attached to Combined Joint Special Operations Task Force-Afghanistan, practice close-quarters battle drills, Kabul province, Afghanistan, Jan. 23, 2014. USSF use these drills to maintain and improve skills during joint operations with Afghan forces. (U.S. Army photo by Spc. Connor Mendez/Released)

Two U.S. Special Forces soldiers, attached to Combined Joint Special Operations Task Force-Afghanistan, set an explosive charge on a door to simulate a breach, Kabul province, Afghanistan, Jan. 23, 2014. USSF use these drills to maintain and improve skills during joint operations with Afghan forces. (U.S. Army photo by Spc. Connor Mendez/Released)

A U.S. Special Forces soldier, attached to Combined Joint Special Operations Task Force-Afghanistan prepares to enter a shoot house in Kabul province, Afghanistan, Jan. 23, 2014. USSF use these drills to maintain and improve skills during joint operations with Afghan forces. (U.S. Army photo by Spc. Connor Mendez/Released)

U.S. Special Forces soldiers, attached to Combined Joint Special Operations Task Force-Afghanistan, prepare to move during a live fire, close-quarters battle drill in Kabul province, Afghanistan, Jan. 23, 2014. USSF use these drills to maintain and improve skills during joint operations with Afghan forces. (U.S. Army photo by Spc. Connor Mendez/Released)

U.S. Special Forces soldiers, attached to Combined Joint Special Operations Task Force-Afghanistan, prepare to conduct close-quarter battle drills at a shoot house, Kabul province, Afghanistan, Jan. 23, 2014. USSF use these drills to maintain and improve skills during joint operations with Afghan forces. (U.S. Army photo by Spc. Connor Mendez/Released)

U.S. Special Forces soldiers, attached to Combined Joint Special Operations Task Force-Afghanistan, prepare to enter and clear a room while conducting close-quarter battle drills at a shoot house in Kabul province, Afghanistan, Jan. 23, 2014. USSF practice drills to keep their battle drill skills sharp while conducting joint operations with Afghan forces. (U.S. Army photo by Spc. Connor Mendez/Released)

U.S. Special Forces soldiers, attached to Combined Joint Special Operations Task Force-Afghanistan, prepare to enter and clear a room while conducting a close-quarter battle drill at a shoot house, Kabul province, Afghanistan, Jan. 23, 2014. USSF use these drills to maintain and improve skills during joint operations with Afghan forces. (U.S. Army photo by Spc. Connor Mendez/Released)

Two U.S. Special Forces soldiers, attached to Combined Joint Special Operations Task Force-Afghanistan, clear a room during close-quarter battle drills in Kabul province, Afghanistan, Jan. 23, 2014. USSF use these drills to maintain and improve skills used during joint operations with Afghan forces. (U.S. Army photo by Spc. Connor Mendez/Released)

Two U.S. Special Forces soldiers attached to Combined Joint Special Operations Task Force-Afghanistan, clear a room during close-quarter battle drills in Kabul province, Afghanistan, Jan. 23, 2014. USSF use these drills to maintain and improve skills during joint operations with Afghan forces. (U.S. Army photo by Spc. Connor Mendez/Released)

U.S. Special Forces soldiers, attached to Combined Joint Special Operations Task Force-Afghanistan, conduct clearing procedures in a room at a shoot house while conducting close quarter battle drills near Camp Commando, Kabul province, Afghanistan, Jan. 23, 2014. USSF practice drills like CQB to keep their battle drill skills sharp while conducting joint operations with Afghan forces. (U.S. Army photo by Spc. Connor Mendez/Released)

U.S. Special Forces soldiers, attached to Combined Joint Special Operations Task Force-Afghanistan, conduct clearing procedures at a shoot house while conducting close- quarter battle drills in Kabul province, Afghanistan, Jan. 23, 2014. USSF use these drills to maintain and improve skills during joint operations with Afghan forces. (U.S. Army photo by Spc. Connor Mendez/Released)

U.S. Special Forces soldiers, attached to Combined Joint Special Operations Task Force-Afghanistan, maneuver through a four-way intersecting hallway at a shoot house while conducting close-quarter battle drills in Kabul province, Afghanistan, Jan. 23, 2014. USSF use these drills to maintain and improve skills during joint operations with Afghan forces. (U.S. Army photo by Spc. Connor Mendez/Released)

 

[goon175]

Is high port what all the cool kids are doing these days?

 

[DA SWO]

Is high port what all the cool kids are doing these days?

I think it depends who is running the class.

The few courses I have gone to all mandated it.

 

[policemedic]

We do the opposite. Muzzle down is our preference.

 

[Brill]

Whoa. Commando teams with beards? THAT this new this year.

 

[Kraut783]

Is high port what all the cool kids are doing these days?

It's okay, the guys up on the walkways are wearing reflector belts.....:-"

 

[RustyShackleford]

I think it depends who is running the class.

The few courses I have gone to all mandated it.

Weird. Any class I have ever attended it was player's choice. I can understand wanting guys to try a technique, but mandating it?

 

[AWP]

There's a video on Youtube, I think it was posted elsewhere on the board, where Paul Howe explains the high vs. low technique, merits, history, etc. In it he presents high port as a SEAL thing brought upon by Duane Dieter's H2H training and low as something they did in CAG. I don't have a dog in this fight or the experience to argue for one over the other.

The thing with firearms I've noticed is that what's "cool" or "hot" this year is out of style the next because a "new" technique was "developed." Almost everything is cyclical.

 

[RustyShackleford]

There's a video on Youtube, I think it was posted elsewhere on the board, where Paul Howe explains the high vs. low technique, merits, history, etc. In it he presents high port as a SEAL thing brought upon by Duane Dieter's H2H training and low as something they did in CAG. I don't have a dog in this fight or the experience to argue for one over the other.

The thing with firearms I've noticed is that what's "cool" or "hot" this year is out of style the next because a "new" technique was "developed." Almost everything is cyclical.

Player's choice! Any SEALs I've worked with were fans of high port and Rangers were always low.

 

[Isiah6:8]

There's a video on Youtube, I think it was posted elsewhere on the board...

It is post #612 in this thread for those interested.

 

[TLDR20]

I know that we when we trained other people, we kept them at high port, that way if there is an AD it doesn't go into the back of the leg of the dude in the stack in front of him. That may be their reasoning, especially if they are running commandos.

 

[DA SWO]

Player's choice! Any SEALs I've worked with were fans of high port and Rangers were always low.

High port actually works beter for me because I have a jacked up shoulder/arm, and can't always point down, but the low port points given seem pretty valid.

It is post #612 in this thread for those interested.

Post #610 also.

 

[Ravage]

Here it is if needed.

 

[Sendero]

I recently took a shooting class from a former Army SOF guy that taught low port. It was basically the same reasons that Paul Howe stated. He wasn't dead set on it, just a preference.

 

[CrewGuy]

I personally just liked to pin a laminated copy of my ERB to my chest and velcro another copy to my helmet. Cleared up any confusion on what I was and was not capable of.

No shit right. Its like driving around any post every other car has a sticker on it for their MOS, every school they've been to, their GT and ASVAB score and what they scored at their last range and PT test.

 

[TheSiatonist]

An U.S. Army Special Forces soldier scans the valley with his optics during a reconnaissance patrol with Afghan National Army commandos of the 4th Special Operations Kandak, to deny insurgent freedom of movement in eastern Shah Wali Kot district, Kandahar province, Afghanistan, Feb. 18, 2014. (U.S. Army photo by Spc. Sara Wakai/Released)

A U.S. Special Forces soldier assigned to Combined Joint Special Operations Task Force-Afghanistan leaps over a creek while pursuing insurgents with Afghan National Security Forces in Gelan district, Ghazni province, Afghanistan, Feb. 8, 2014. ANSF engaged the insurgents after being fired upon while en route to their original objective and cleared the village in which the harassing fire originated, forcing insurgents to retreat. (U.S. Army photo by Pfc. David Devich)

Afghan villagers watch as U.S. special forces soldiers assigned to Combined Joint Special Operations Task Force-Afghanistan and Afghan National Security Forces secure a village from insurgentsin Gelan district, Ghazni province, Afghanistan, Feb. 8, 2014. ANSF cleared the village in which the harassing fire originated and forced insurgents to retreat. (US Army photo by Pfc. David Devich)

An Afghan National Army special forces soldier and a U.S. Special Forces soldier assigned to Combined Joint Special Operations Task Force-Afghanistan, directs ANA soldiers during a firefight with insurgents in Gelan district, Ghazni province, Afghanistan, Feb. 8, 2014. Afghan National Security Forces actively engaged the insurgents after being fired upon while en route to their original objective and cleared the village in which the harassing fire originated, forcing insurgents to retreat. (U.S. Army photo by Pfc. David Devich)